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Leaders of the New School: Hip-Hop Bum Rushes the Videogame StageHip-hop is bringing its noise to videogames. Evan Narcisse looks at Def Jam Rapstar and DJ Hero.
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I was going to leave a really nasty comment regarding how I don't want more scrubs thinking that they have any talent at DJing because of a game, but I want to wait and see how bad it gets. Suffice to say I don't want more people thinking they can pick up DJing easily, it's a very difficult art form that takes years to master.
But of course the same could probably be said by guitar players about rockband, and so far the rockband kiddies have stuck to pretending to play guitar rather than trying to actually play, lets hope it's the same for these games.
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@Palalong:
Yeah, I was kind of the same way with Guitar Hero, being a guitarist, but it's so different. It's funny, Guitar Hero seems to have done absolutely nothing to encourage kids to learn instruments outside of the plastic variety.
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@Palalong:
There were a few years, maybe in the early 00's, when it seemed like every third person I ran into was getting turntables. All of them abandoned it eventually because they didn't realize that learning how to beatmatch and select the right records, not to mention learning how to scratch, can be pretty tedious. (Same with any instrument really.) That's something that DJ Hero is NOT going to convey.
Of course it's a moot point, the more DJ equipment goes digital and a lot of that stuff is automated. I can imagine some enterprising DJ will find a way to turn the DJ Hero turntable into an actual DJ tool. That would be the most interesting, and in a way the most authentic, tribute to DJ culture - for the gameplay to produce a new method of DJing.
Are you a DJ?
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@RyanKuo:
Yeah, I've been DJing since before Serato Scratch Live made our lives easier. You bring up a good point, most people who think they want to DJ end up quitting due to the difficulty. As for a new method, I don't know, this game lets you add in "shout outs from famous rappers" which as any DJ can tell you is complete crap. Nobody wants to hear someone shouting over the music they're trying to dance to. It's a commercial ploy spawned by radio DJs who want to make sure you know that they got the exclusive track, a method of watermarking your "work".
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I'm hoping the same goes for these games. In college I had to deal with way too many rich kids thinking that I want to hear their garbage freestyles just because I'm spinning at the lounge/bar/house party that they're at.
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@Palalong:
By new method I mean using the DJ Hero turntable as some kind of MIDI controller ... what if you could hook it up to a real mixer and use the three buttons to trigger or toggle between tracks in Serato or Ableton Live - it seems like it'd be a good interface for more cut-up style mixing. Or you could use the buttons + moving the 'record' to do pitch-bend or flanger or what have you. Triggering samples would be like the icing.
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@ryankuo
the thing is there are already real tools out there that do it better than this controller. I don't doubt that it's going to happen but I just don't want this controller to try to reinvent the wheel. HO HO! I did not even meanto write that that epic pun
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@Palalong:
Man, you sound like a DJ ex-girlfriend I had. I sincerely hope you are not her because that was one bad break-up.
Ahem.
The point Ryan makes about beat-matching is a good one. Townsend said that they didn't want to get into beat-matching and crate-digging because they might be perceived as tedious and certainly wouldn't make for good gameplay.
And the million-dollar question: What kind of stuff do you spin?
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@Palalong:
Well, if they came out with DJ tools on the DS, they've gotta do it on the candy turntable.
And, music games aside, everyone knows being a good selector is more important than technical skill or even musical talent. But hopefully DJ Hero will shine some light on how hip-hop, dance music and mashups are actually about music and not just button-pushing.
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I'm not a girl and I'm not trying to be an ass about this whole thing. I honestly hope that this game comes out and exemplifies the goodd intentions that the devs have.
I prefer old school hip hop and funk but that doesn't get you many gigs. Jungle Brothers, Outkast, Zion I, K-os type stuff is what I like the most
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I'm personally more excited for Rapstar than DJ Hero. Back in my college days I had a "I can do that" phase, similar to Mr. Narcisse. It took me longer than him to realize I was wrong, so I actually kept at it long enough to get some tracks recorded. Listening to them now it's pretty embarrassing, but the few days my friends and I spent recording stuff were among my best memories from that time. After spending hours writing lyrics actually recording them served as a kind of validating release. It made me feel like I had accomplished something, even if the final product was horrible (and I assure you it was). I'm kind of looking forward to recapturing a little of that feeling with Rapstar.
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