1/31/2009 4:22:03 AM
the guy has a life. get over yourself. he doesn't owe you anything. if he's getting paid, let the people paying him worry about it.
1/27/2009 1:41:52 AM
the comments are an awesome way to kill time oh and i agree with hazardjsimpson kudos on speaking your mind i mean yeah freedom of speach is still there but most people are to scared of getting judged and just try to be nice and also people he has a life and chooses to live it now i also think he should keep his promise but hey if all you do is read the comics just to find something else to bitch about than you have no life and i say FUCK YOU
1/18/2009 11:37:01 PM
Well, I gotta tell you guys, I see both points. I love Scott's work, and I stop by almost daily to see if his work (along with Aarons work as well on backwards compatible) is updated, and then I'll usually move onto the articles. If it isn't, I usually log off. That effects the advertisers who are paying to keep this site up and running. If enough of us aren't staying on long enough for the advertisers to justify the revenue they're spending, they pull their ads, and soon after Crispy Gamer is a memory. This applies to everything on the site as well (the articles as well). By the same token, acting like a jerk because somebody is late on a deadline, even late on a regular basis, is counter-productive. Why put my work out to the masses if they love me one moment but if I'm late I have to take a ration of crap about it. When I'm unhappy about a business, a movie or a restaurant, I usually pay my tab and move on. Venting my frustration on a manager, waitress or anybody else doesn't usually fix anything. Bill Willingham (fables, et al.) lost his mind one time while drawing elementals back in the late eighties/early nineties when one of his fans sent in a letter to make suggestions about how he could improve his artwork (albeit in a poser sort of way). Bill's response was to blast this guy in an editorial in probably one of the crudest ways he could have in the front page of elementals. Regardless of how justified he felt in doing that, it cost him my readership, as well as others and the book eventually folded. The reverse holds true as well. Enough people give Scott crap, maybe he walks and we're all deprived of something we enjoy (and that's the truth of it, because if we didn't enjoy his work we wouldn't even bother posting about it.)I'd just let it go guys.
1/14/2009 3:54:17 AM
Not going to lie but I too enjoy this comic. I don't support people who can't keep deadlines. But...I do enjoy this comic. I have never liked PVP and have never been a fan of WOW but oddly I enjoy the many misadventures of Ding!. On a side note, despite the fact the comic hasn't updated the posts I keep seeing create endless entertainment. Thanks everyone for the many laughs.
1/14/2009 1:45:05 AM
Last I checked Freedom of Speech was still up there in the list of freedoms. Thus, i have the freedom to:Call Scott Kurtz a lazy bastard for not updating this comic.Call you a retard for defending his laziness.And all without any kind of real evidence of either because last I heard opinions were just that. If you're getting this worked up over some peoples opinion, then you're no better than him for shutting his forum, or Buckley for whatever blasphemous acts people claim he's done. He's entitled to do whatever he wants with his comic too, and he can expect to take whatever repercussions this will cause. I've never paid for anything Kurtz has made, and don't plan to. This little "setback" hasn't changed that fact either way, but you can't take away my right to be annoyed by it and voice my annoyance.
1/14/2009 1:37:08 AM
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1/14/2009 1:37:01 AM
1/13/2009 11:37:35 PM
Except that it takes 3-5 seconds after a page is loaded for impressions to be made. If you check the site the first thing your drawn to is the strip. It takes less then about 1-2 seconds for someone to realize its the same strip as always and the reader is off clicking away from the page. The majority of high traffic sites such as these go with pay per view since the traffic is higher. Which I will agree is an assumption, but an educated one at that. Just because you can be late doesn't mean you should. It shows the readers you don't give a shit, it demonstrates a lazy business attitude, and is generally frowned upon in a real job. This is the point I am making, and the one all these people who just say its free QQ ROFLMAO KILL YURSELF HAHA LOSER NUBS!! can't seem to grasp.As far as shitting on Scott this comic has his name on it. We are free to discuss it as we see fit. If Scott doesn't want to get his feelings hurt reading these, then he can close this like he did his forums which another poster here mentioned. I admire the old Scott, I have an e-mail from him dated back to 2004. It was something that motivated me to do something I loved since childhood. Its just disappointing to see a pioneer in this field become a bane of its existence. I was a fan, I used to participate in the forums, paid for the animated series, & owned merchandise. All of which I no longer do or buy. For the single point I have made in almost every post I made here.
1/13/2009 10:41:43 PM
...needs a change. If you're just here to shit on Scott, just take a hike. Go write nastygrams on the Warcraft forums and troll on your alts. It's the same mentality, really.
1/13/2009 10:12:41 PM
" You are correct in the fact that this site is free to visit for general population, but it sure as shit isn't free to all these advertisers here. "Right - so unless you're an advertiser, shut the hole under your nose and vote with your dollars. That's the kind of business I'm in. I'm certainly NOT in the business where a bunch of whiny self-important random people on an internet forum get to decide how/when/why my work gets done and what kind of crap I get in return. I'm not defending missed deadlines here. But I do understand that it happens, and the people who write the checks for this can work it out. They can fine, not pay checks, require reimbursement, blacklist you from work, etc. If it happens a lot, yes - it will hurt the artist and revenues, dramatically. I still fail to see where YOU the reader get to call those shots, however. I still fail to see where it means that y'all can excuse yourselves acting like assholes to someone you want more from in the first place. It's backwards and juvenile."With people checking the site just to see if its updated creates bullshit impressions for those advertisers."Well now that's just not right. First off, you don't even know if the model here is by click or involved with page hits. Second of all, you assume that no one checking here for updates would check the ads in the process. Furthermore, the fact that the pages would receive that many hits for updates would indicate a popularity level that is paying back on revenue, even if the content isn't updated. Subsequently, if the page doesn't update and people stop coming by for updates and the hits reduce, then the advertisers see that and act correspondingly via their contract with Crispy Gamer. You see how that works? It's kind of like they know what they're doing - even without a bunch of loudmouthed assholes flaming forums in their spare time.Seriously, if you all want to stop reading and visiting, do so. Use your power to make a change in something you see
1/13/2009 9:27:20 PM
...mechanics. So as we can all see your ability to use real world correlations to the topic at hand is astounding, and you have shown us all the error of our ways. Except that none of them applied to the subject matter, but hey this is the internet right, who needs to use examples that are correct. The fact is that Scott is a pioneer in the web comic industry. No one can take that from him. He did it before it was popular. He has made a tremendous business out of it and that took guts and hard work. Now he doesn't give a shit, cuts back the work and can't keep promises he makes, frankly cause he doesn't have to, and that's the point we all are making. Just because you don't have to any more doesn't mean you shouldn't. He has plenty of readers like the ones posting below me here that will defend to the end. In terms of business ethics, he has just become lazy. His comic is black and white which uses many copy and paste moments. The story lines are very uneventful, unoriginal, and scripted like a bad movie. There are plenty of other artists out there producing far more, far better, and far more consistent.
1/13/2009 9:06:55 PM
Nice work ignoring the fact that in the professional market anyone who has missed a deadline by a month, or who has continually made promises to upkeep a certain schedule and fail time and time over again, while reducing the amount of actual work they put out would get black listed and quick. The only reason this comic and pvp are able to pull this off is the readership that was built from the beginning. I don't know what business market your in, but if your deadlines are not met constantly and your suppliers are a month late on product delivery I highly doubt your business would deal with them anymore. Unless your full of shit and just want to crawl up the ass of the "artist" more. You are correct in the fact that this site is free to visit for general population, but it sure as shit isn't free to all these advertisers here. With people checking the site just to see if its updated creates bullshit impressions for those advertisers. The site isn't staying up to date and is costing advertisers money. Like I said before, anyone who was to break into the character design, cartooning, illustration, or web design industry sure as shit couldn't pull this crap or they would never see a paying job again. But I am sure you will come back with some witty retort about how I have no clue "how the real business world works." At this point the comments are the only reason I stop by here, and only came across this because a friend who reads Kurtz stuff mentioned how people were starting to complain.As for you movie push back dates, guess what, advertising dollars are either refunded or credited to relate current content at the time of release. Software release dates don't bank on advertisers to supply money for them, and will lose customer base if consistently released late after public announcement dates. Business projects getting canceled actually cost the BUSINESS money, and mechanics having back ordered products to many times will result in people going to another mechan
1/13/2009 8:26:07 PM
hahahaha, I love how u shut that jerk, hazardjsimpson, can't wait to see his ignorant reply
1/13/2009 6:29:41 PM
Another note on the promised schedule shit -- I can't even imagine why you would expect someone who you're giving immeasurable amounts of shit, to even worry about meeting your needs as a customer? Frankly, you're the kind of customer worth losing. NO ONE wants to deal with irritating jerkoffs who have some sort of imaginary RIGHT to tell other people how to do their business.Again, yeah - it sucks. But do does being a total douchebag over something you: A) don't controlB) don't pay forC) don't need for your daily lifeD) can't do on your ownI also want more Ding! comics, but unlike you, I don't expect to get them by being a douchebag.
1/13/2009 6:24:19 PM
Umm, I'm not chastising you, and I have as much right to my opinion as yours, last I checked. Where do you get off having any sense of self-entitlement to someone else's schedule? I don't remember you paying a subscription fee.Fact is, this is how business works sometimes. Sometimes shit happens. Sometimes deadlines get screwed. Sometimes, projects fail and die. If you had even a turds worth of life experience dealing with the business market, you might understand that. This isn't a fucking Burger King - you do NOT get it your way unless you're PAYING FOR IT.And I'm not acting like anyone's Dad here, that's just stupidity. Whether or not you support him financially is the ONLY relevant thing here. This is his work , it's not your fucking RIGHT. Is that so hard to get? If it is, go into any store or business and try to get your way based on a 'promised' schedule.Ever hear of software release dates?Ever hear of movies getting pushed back?Ever hear of business projects getting cancelled?Ever had your mechanic tell you 'sorry, that part got backordered, it's gonna be another two weeks?'Welcome to the real world, asshole. Get used to it.
1/13/2009 4:03:55 PM
Yeah, you don't get to just chastise us for being frustrated when it's been going on for years, now. Whether or not we are artists ourselves is irrelevant. Whether or not we can produce anything better is irrelevant. Whether we are paying for it or not is irrelevant.What matters is this - a person has declared an update schedule, and then continues to break it. Kurtz has done this for years now - work starts to lag, he makes a promise, then fails to live up to it.Would any artist who has NOT been around for years be able to get away with this? Hell no. The only reason he can is because of the early years when he actually KEPT his promises and maintained some semblance of professionalism in his work ethic. While other newer artists are struggling to gain even a fraction of the audience he takes for granted, he pisses all over his again and again.So stop acting like everyone's dad by looking down on us and claiming we have nothing to complain about. Some of us have financially supported his work, some of us haven't, but that's irrelevant anyway. If you can't maintain an update schedule, you shouldn't make the claim that you can. At some point, a guy like that needs to be called on his bullshit, and the sheer number of people doing so now proves that we have a point.
1/13/2009 3:22:37 PM
I think all the haters out there need to pull your heads out of your asses and realize a couple of things:1) Whether you agree or not, this is an artist's work. Art. He doesn't HAVE to produce jack shit, and he certainly doesn't OWE updates on comics to anyone who's not paying his subscription fee.2) If you don't like it, don't read. It says more about your personality that you'll spend hours writing pissed off hate mail about something like this rather than say produce your own damn art, read a different comic, vote with your wallet, etc. Sure, you may not be getting your personal satisfaction the way you want it, but guess what? That's life!Seriously , I really dig PvP and Ding! a lot and feel the same sense of discouragement when updates don't happen... But at the same time, it's not like I'm PAYING for this. You aren't either, so get off your high horses and go get some work done.
1/13/2009 9:11:46 AM
Also, I wasn't even aware until just now (I read it over at that pvpmakesmesad blog) that kurtz shut down his own forums.. bwuh?!? So that's where you are now, playing the "out of sight, out of mind" game?After all the poo he flung at T. Fuckley for being a dictator with HIS forums, he goes and delete his entirely? That's the kind of sad that I never honestly expected from kurtz.
1/13/2009 8:55:47 AM
Updates faithfully every day? Is that a joke?Listen, people.. the reason why so many people bitch and moan is because kurtz is taking his long-standing fan base for granted. I happily read PvP every morning (yes, he actually updated in the morning back in the day) for almost 5 years, before this "Fame = Laziness" bullshit started to take hold.Now he's down to M-F on PvP (although results may vary, sometimes only 3-4 a week), those updates usually go up on the evening, and he doesn't even write or draw ding.. which begs the question, why is his name even on it? Because he's the guy these people send their ideas to?I bought collections of his old strips, and even a few Image issues, so yeah, I have "clearance" to bitch. Plenty of other artists bust their asses to get even a FRACTION of the readership that kurtz takes for granted every day. He pissed away whatever loyalty he earned in his early years, so to all of you self-righteous ass-kissers who go on and on about "it's free stfu", you don't know what you are talking about.
1/13/2009 7:06:53 AM
You guys are aware that scott kurtz has ANOTHER webcomic that he updates faithfully every weekday, right?www.pvponline.comCheck it out
1/13/2009 2:43:54 AM
True is hasn't updated in a while, but you guys act like everything in life happens flawlessly without any things that might pop up or something. Give him a damn break, he's trying to please you guys with a WoW comic and all you can do is get pissed at him for not updating because something came up.
1/13/2009 12:55:28 AM
They're complaining BECAUSE they like the strip. There is nothing wrong with being upset at a comic not updating for over a month.
1/12/2009 10:05:26 PM
jesus get off his ass if u didnt like the fucking comic u wouldnt read or check if it was updated so if u dont like it and yet u still come here to piss people off then stick an uzi in ur mouth and see if u cant do a painting with ur brains >.> and quit ur fuckin Q.Qin
1/11/2009 7:46:46 PM
rofl wow you guys QQ way too much.
1/11/2009 12:27:27 PM
Bam leveled a Sham from 1 to 65 and got my main to 80 before This was updated. /sigh I really dig this strip.. please don't dilbert us here.
1/9/2009 9:43:47 AM
I'm a bit confused here...a lot of people claim that PvP is only updated 3-4 times a week. I read it on a daily basis, and as far as I can tell he doesn't miss a strip at all. I've always counted 5 strips a week.
1/8/2009 10:05:41 PM
Posted on Pvp makes me sad https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4989649127373312714&postID=6344343083333585831 kurtz said... First of all, it's wonderful to see this site dying a slow, inevitable death. Kick ass. 2nd. About Ding. I've gotten some amazing and hilarious stories from people in the WoW community and I'm really excited about turning Ding into something I can be excited about again. There are only so many ideas you can mine from your own gaming experience, then the idea goes dull. Which is why PvP was never just about one game. Or just games in general. WoW is a community game. It's about interacting with other people and their experiences. Turning Ding into a strip about "real stories from a virtual world" is a great idea (I think). If you guys want to get all high-and-mighty about these people being compensated for their ideas...whatever. If the person giving me their story idea has no problem with it, then it's none of your FUCKING BUSINESS is it? I'm not holding a gun to anyone's head. And despite them giving me their stories in their own words, I am going edit and add to spice things up and make them nice and tight and enjoyable to read. God I can't wait for this site to belch it's last bubble of bile and then die off.
1/8/2009 6:15:19 PM
Everyone here is complaining about Kurtz, fine. Scott's quality in his humor has dropped over the course of the years, but it's been how many years now? More than ten. He's the *only* writer too, most things now (be they comics or shows or what have you) don't last four years. He's lasted ten. Of course the humor will get a little stale, but cut some slack. If you didn't still find it good enough you wouldn't be here to complain about it.Secondly, as for his PVP updates, I check his site after work daily and his comic is up. Five a week most weeks. Which means that Monday through Friday Scott has posted a comic (which is to say, he's done his job) in completion by five pm EST -- him being in Texas means he was done by three. He finished early.Lastly, about Ding!'s specific lack of updates; Paul took off time for himself. It wasn't posted here, it should have been. Check his own comic (Ugly Hill) and read his posts, he needed a vacation to be with his family.I understand that this is a product, we are the consumers and it's funded through the ads, I even understand being ticked (to a degree) that it's not up on time, and I'll even agree that nigh on a month is way too long. All I'm saying is that if you want to be mad that Ding! isn't posted on time, keep your complaints focused on Ding! as there's no need to drag Scott's or Paul's other works through the mud.
1/8/2009 5:56:21 PM
I'm well aware of Scott's often-poor update schedule, and I share many reader's frustration with not seeing new content when I want it, when it's been promised to us.However, I come at this from a webcartoonist point of view as well. My own comic has been up for almost a year, and I can attest to how it can be difficult to keep to your update schedule, as you start additional projects and new tasks for yourself. So far, I've had 2 late updates, both of them due to technological reasons that were resolved within 24 hours. The thing is that even with good intentions and hard work, you can burn through a queue surprisingly fast as you try to work on your commitments, your merchandise projects, your commissions, etc. and Lords of Kobol forbid that something outside of your microverse creeps up on you, like a holiday, a convention, some random game or what-have-you.So what I'm saying is, it's fine to criticize. It's valid to make a judgment when it comes to how to spend your own time, looking for more and more entertainment. But before you really get into the criticism, try walking a mile in their shoes. You may find it's not as easy as you thought it was.For those curious, my comic is Hell Has Found Me. (and no, I won't be giving him my WoW stories... I'm keepin them fer MYSELF! :D
1/8/2009 4:58:33 PM
Look what you've started, Scott!
1/8/2009 4:40:31 PM
I think Jwalsh1208 might be my brother-n-law o.O
1/8/2009 3:40:42 PM
L2economics? Really?Last I knew, Scott doesn't have a job other that his webcomics and related merchandising. Maybe the ads aren't huge individually, but there are a ton of them. And he makes money off his comic in plenty of other ways too, or else he wouldn't be able to pay his mortgage, or eat, or anything else. But, merchandising depends on their being a fan base, and a fan base will fade away without new content.This is the reason that there are so many webcomics out there - you can miss deadlines, fall through on promises, and generally put crap up whenever you feel like it. If you tried that at a real job, you'd get canned in a heartbeat. Hell, even drawing comics for a newspaper you have deadlines and all that.We're only asking Scott to live up to promises he made himself, not some arbitrary goals we've set for him. We didn't twist his arm, he set these goals for himself. Scott said 5 PvPs per week, but he posts 3-4. Scott said 2 Dings per week, but he posts 1 per month (if that many). Scott is not a man of his word. And I see no reason not to hold someone to their own word, ever. Just off of the top of my head: Penny Arcade promises 3 comics a week and posts them, at least 49 weeks of the year, if not every single week. xkcd is the same. Dilbert has a new comic up 365 days a year. Schlock Mercenary runs 7 days a week and hasn't missed a single comic in something like TEN YEARS, not even once.Why can't Scott manage that?
1/8/2009 2:21:24 PM
#1 - Scott does PvP; Ctrl-Alt-Del is Tim Buckley. Get your webcomics straight. It's not like it's hard... PvP is good, while CAD is a load of donkeyballs. #2 - Kinda hard to make money on advertisers when they don't pay up. Just ask Woody of GU: http://www.gucomics.com/afs.php . Even when it's paid, advertising isn't worth THAT much. L2economics, to put it in parlance you can grasp. #3 - Seriously, get off your high horse about something you get for FREE. If you had the Goose That Laid The Golden Egg, you'd bitch that it wasn't platinum.
1/8/2009 1:42:34 PM
I agree with everyone else out there who is complaining about regular webcomics being posted. You make a crap-ton of cash being paid for the advertising, not the comic itself. Those who are giving praise for letting the artist(s) post at their leisure dont understand just how much money, companies are willing to pay for a high traffic website with their ad on it. And yes, I do go to ctrlaltdel-online.com every 3 days to view the comics. Do I expect them to be new EVERY 3 days... no, we all need a break. But not posting a new comic since the first Post here (dec 11th) is uncalled for. All they are doing is milking the system. As long as we keep coming to the website and creating hits, the numbers will be skewed of how many "genuine" hits the site will have, thus the money will continue to roll in. Given the history of how long ago ctrlaltdel has been going and the thousands of comics there... I will not be coming back here for another month... and you all should be doing the same. All your doing is enabling Scott to milk instead of create. The comic is free to us, but someone is flipping the bill. Sounds like welfare to me.
1/8/2009 8:00:56 AM
I've been a long time PvP reader and only recently found Ding. However, over the years its become painfully clear that Scott doesn't have the material he once had. He lost "it". Thats why he's changed the format of Ding, he doesn't have enough new ideas so he's scavaging real user content. I used to LOVE pvp online but the jokes just arn't there anymore. Its a shame b/c i used to be a huge Kurtz fan and loved his content.
1/8/2009 7:49:55 AM
A webcomic is a creative endeavor, and those of us who enjoy them have become rather spoiled from the abundance of free entertainment. I've read many webcomics, and there are quite a few that update sporadically, whenever the artist has an inspiration that he feels he can share with millions of people. All of us who enjoy "Ding!" would like to see more, but, ultimately, it's up to the artist to decide what we see, and when. Since Scott has posted on Pvp that he want's to take "Ding!" in a new direction, based on the WoW adventures of his readers, he's likely got a great many e-mails to cull through to pick the subjects of his upcoming strips.
1/7/2009 5:26:50 PM
Dude, hurry up and get another comic done.
1/7/2009 4:51:28 PM
"Those who rush to 80 just so that they can raid are either a) single or b) married but their spouse is always annoyed that they play so much."Tell that to my husband's boss who came home to find his wife had completed his character's journey to 80 so they could get started on the raids. The couple that raids together stays together ;)
1/7/2009 10:36:53 AM
at least he's not VG cats.....update once a month? MAYBE o.O They've built such a following they can post a comic whenever, but we'll still keep checking everyday for a new one providing plenty of hits to there site.
1/7/2009 1:42:15 AM
If anyone thinks that just because the comic is FREE means that professionalism goes out the window is completely wrong. This is their living, this their job. But they do not treat it as such. Just because you can be lazy doesn't mean you should. I am sorry but the only reason someone like Kurtz is able to pull this off is because of the amount of readers he built up prior. I have been a PvP fan for a long time. I remember way back when Scott saying how he made a promise to not miss a strip. Now we are on 5 days from 7 and comics go up late all the time. Ding is a Bi-weekly comic that hasn't been updated in almost a month. Not one aspiring artist could pull this crap and get away with it. His work ethic is garbage, and he has to be grateful for people who think its ok to have a horrible professional attitude. I am glad there are people out there that are so far up popular artists butts that no matter what they do we should all be grateful. I don't take that stance, and would love to see artists act professional, and deliver what they say when they say they will. In all honesty that is only asking for the the bare minimum, which apparently is to much. And as for the work that actually gets done, like I stated before, there are many many other artists doing more, more consistently while keeping their work ethic in tact. Not trying to start an argument, was just voicing my opinion.
1/7/2009 12:34:23 AM
Dude, seriously for all of you complaining get a grip. I like on time updated comics as much as the next guy, but I'm not going to trash Scott or Paul if it's late. At the end of the day they both have other comics that pay the mortgage and those are their priorities. The creative process isn't as easy as most people think it is. Kurtz, keep up the good work. To all the naysayers...go read Ctrl-Alt-Del or something.Tim Buckley Sucks!
1/7/2009 12:08:41 AM
BloodGain is spot on. Scott not only gets paid to draw these, he makes his living doing it. HIS ONLY JOB IS TO DRAW COMICS. And, I would assume, handle merchandising and such related to his comics. So, in a way, he does owe us something. Still, it's his prerogative to draw them or not, but it's likewise our prerogative to point out that when he says "Ding! is going to be bi-weekly" and then he puts out bi-monthly updates, that he's not really good at keeping his word. I didn't mean to start a Scott-bashing-fest. Like I said, I really enjoy PvP and Ding!, and would LOVE it if he could post the old 7 PvP strips and 2 Ding! strips per week. That would be awesome.However, he's said he'll post 5 PvP strips and can't seem to get more than 4 most weeks - I'm willing to cut some slack for the holidays, but still...his ONLY JOB is to draw a four panel strip, once per day. And, he cut&pastes most of that as it is! He's admitted as much, and you can see it in PvP and the above strip (even though it wasn't drawn by him, the point is valid). That kills a huge chunk of the manual labor, if you aren't DRAWING a comic so much as copy&pasting, and adding words.I have this same exact issue with VGCats. They're great comics, but I can only check the page so many times expecting a promised update, only to find it blank...eventually, I stop reading. I'm about at that point.
1/6/2009 6:23:28 PM
You know what, this comment by Mattlore actually inspired me to log in to comment on just how stupid it was. I never log in, and I don't like the new comments feature attached to the comics.Mattlore, if you think most professional webcomic artists work for free, you're really in your own little world out there. Scott Kurtz does this FOR A LIVING. He MAKES MONEY doing webcomics through advertising, merchandising, and related works (like his "How to Make Webcomics" book). If you don't think Scott either gets paid for this comic or at least benefits from its existence, then you need to wake up.The point is that Scott has a history of not keeping up with his work. I like PvP and Ding (and I don't even play WoW), but I don't care for Scott's work ethic. He took a well-deserved reduction to 5 PvP strips a week instead of 7, but he claimed that he was going to get at least 1-2 months of comics done ahead of time so there wouldn't be down time on the strip in addition to the reduction in comics. I keep reading the comic because I like it, but I don't visit the site every day because I get tired of the comic not being up consistently. I wouldn't even check Ding! if Backward Compatible wasn't usually pretty good.I buy PvP merchandise, so yes, I am a paying customer. I have the privilege of complaining, even if it doesn't change anything. That's the downside of comments ;-)
1/6/2009 6:22:52 PM
I was 80 before this comic was posted. I am working another toon who will be 80 shortly. Wow has been so dumb down it is sad. WHERE is the hardcore love? I can't wait for Star Wars the Old Republic..... Lucas arts knows how to make a gamer hurt so good.....
1/6/2009 5:20:34 PM
You know what, this comment by jwalsh1208 actually inspired me to sign up to comment on just how stupid it was. Scott and Paul don't have to work on your's or anyone else's shcedual. They only have to work on their own. They don't owe you anything. They do this comic for FREE! As a service to the fans. It's fans like you that makes me wonder why they even still bother updating at all. In short: Webcomic artists have lives too, so shut the hell up and learn some god damn patience.
1/6/2009 1:57:10 PM
Yeah i have to be honest. I have heard the whole I am going to update this or that this amount of times. I am committed blah blah blah. At this point its very similar to a fat person going on a diet over and over. Sounds good when you hear it, however results may vary. Its frustrating to see someone with this amount of readers putting forth so little for those readers. When so many other aspiring people put out so much more and far more consistent. Apparently fame = laziness in this case.
1/6/2009 11:24:23 AM
I guess those 3-4 PvP comics a week are really dragging Scott down, huh? He's too busy not updating his regular comic to have time to update this one? The new idea sounds neat, I guess, but also sounds like someone can't think of story material. Not sure how he plans on drawing six comics a week when he can't even manage five right now. I know I sound bitter and whatever - that's because I love PvP and really like Ding too, but the whole "maybe he'll update tomorrow" thing gets old FAST.
1/6/2009 10:27:21 AM
Scott, I read your DING! post on PVP ... I look forward the the new changes.
1/6/2009 9:51:27 AM
@Vanguard: You can't kill Arthas, but then, you also can't exactly talk to Horde, so it's a bit hard for us to say things like that unless you go out of your way to find Horde players you've killed on the forums...And it's not like the expansions add to your monthly fee or force you to do the new raids you don't "approve" of... They're a one-time cost that opens new content, let you play new races or classes, and reach higher levels.
1/5/2009 10:52:07 PM
I loved the Original WoW BC wasn't as cool and LK doesn't look fun to me, I pay another fifty bucks to get it pay an additional fifteen dollars just to Kill Arthas (which always bugged me.) Get Tier8 now? So you can finally go PvP but no, the Horde always tell me to go Rape my Mother. Because I kill them...I'm not trying to get anyone to quit I'm just stating my comment on WotLK. Enjoy the game people who have it. But I just don't like the idea of boosting to Eighty, Sixty's enough for me.
1/5/2009 12:38:12 PM
I got to 80 before this was updated ^_^
1/2/2009 12:25:30 PM
I'm a casual noob (Alliance mainly). I like reading the story (however thin and repetitive it has become -- I'm a sucker for sequels of good original stories no matter how worse each one keeps getting). Then again, I'm in a guild of two people, and we both couldn't care less about getting to 80 quickly. So, I ain't got no pressure to get to no 80.
1/1/2009 5:32:05 PM
When is he going to update this comic? it is funny but getting slow.
12/30/2008 11:14:52 AM
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12/30/2008 8:34:24 AM
I can has an update? k thx.Scott, I love the comic so far, but I thought Paul would help keep it updated consistently? Oh well ... I guess I'll just be satisfied with PVP every day. I know you're busy. Thanks for the great strips!
12/30/2008 1:39:41 AM
When i she going to update this? Great strip but it seems to update about as fast as you all level.
12/28/2008 6:17:45 PM
Hear hear!
12/27/2008 8:55:44 AM
You know what's worse that waiting for the guild to get to 80? Waiting for a new Ding!
12/27/2008 8:55:11 AM
You kniw
12/23/2008 6:28:04 PM
Speaking of ding'ing at 80:http://www.crispygamer.com/comics/ExperiencePoints/ExperiencePoints-2008-12-23.aspx
12/23/2008 4:14:40 PM
it took me a year to get to 70 in bc just because I didn't have the time to play. I worked and worked this time. little by little. Hit 74 in the first 2 weeks. Then I couldn't travel for thanksgiving so I had 4 days straight I ding 80 by friday at midnight.
12/23/2008 11:15:44 AM
I got wrath and am now sitting at 78, I haven't blown though it, i took my time. I don't have the time to play like a lot of my friends. I have enjoyed the story, and its fun to finally be able to see Dalaran
12/18/2008 4:41:07 PM
I know what you mean, I just like taking the an enjoyment of going through old instances of World of Wacraft and Burning Crusade..I still love em all...Still fun to play in all though over lvled :P
12/18/2008 3:51:50 PM
It's interesting that many casual players feel this way: that a semi/hardcore player does more or less what they do, only faster (i.e. quest now, instance later). I was the second 80 in my guild (as a DK, no less) because every time someone asked for a tank I said "sure". As much as I can appreciate different people playing the game different ways, it does irk me that so many players leave instances alone until they've outleveled them (and later enter raids with those skillsets).
12/18/2008 1:39:39 PM
I dont think there is a rush to getting to 80 :P Took me 4-7 months (maybe even longer <.<) to hit 70 when I got B.C...I dont even have WOTLK yet and I think I'm going to take my sweet time lvling 10 more lvl..plus I talk to much so I guess thats one of the causes of me lvling so slowly >.> But whatever just have fun with the new monster's and other things on the game, there's always PLENTY of things to do :DD
12/16/2008 2:30:29 PM
Well me being an alt who...er....loving person, it took me FOREVER to get to 70 on Sihdtu (yes, He's named after me...sort of). My previous Guild was heavy raid, and heavy Instance and kept jibing me about how long it took me. Once I hit 70, they started riding me about getting a Kara key. Now Northrend...I'm chillin'. Play with the giant Norseman. Ride a dragon/mammoth/toxic war machine. It's good...
12/16/2008 9:07:33 AM
Same here. I rushed to get to 70, and I missed a lot of the lore and just having fun. I'm taking my time, reading everything. There will be plenty of time for raiding after. ^_^
12/15/2008 11:15:39 AM
Those who rush to 80 just so that they can raid are either a) single or b) married but their spouse is always annoyed that they play so much. LOL
12/15/2008 2:50:38 AM
lol. My guild is wondering why I don't have it yet. I was in Beta for 7 weeks...I got to 73 in there, and am in no rush to own it..It IS huge fun, but this way my wife can get it for me for Xmas for a change! :)
12/13/2008 4:31:08 PM
I'm getting pretty close to 70, so hopefully I get Lich King for Christmas...
12/11/2008 2:46:12 PM
I'm not rushing either. I just got my main to 70 a month or so before the expansion came out. It's a good, sane pace that really lets you smell the roses.
12/11/2008 12:52:05 PM
I wrote the review for Crispy on Wrath of the Lich King and I did it more as a travelogue not intent on powerleveling to 80. The expansion does a great job with ambiance and story, more so than in the past, and it was a lot of fun doing all the quests and actually paying attention to the story.
12/11/2008 11:13:51 AM
Yep. I'm not power leveling to 80 just so I can raid and get gear. I am enjoying questing and seeing the new lands and monsters.
12/11/2008 4:21:17 AM
Man, I soooooo know how the under 80's feel. My guild is not hardcore but a growing number of the members are 80 on their mains while my main is 74. I keep telling them "we waited for new content for so long, why blow through it in a rush to 80?"
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