11/15/2009 1:49:15 PM
The issue was never that he decided not to make this comic anymore. It was that he said Ding was returning and strung everyone along for months playing on our hopes and then when the day came to see new comics like he promised, he came up with some other dumb comic, gave it Dings name, and told us all to STFU when any of us complained. It would not have been so bad if he had just stopped writing them, but what he did is just friggen low.
11/13/2009 7:41:38 AM
@pinchythecrab: Also Knights of the dinner table is a good comic book! So why dont you just leave now and let this relic comic be in peace.
Bawk!Bawk!
10/20/2009 12:44:02 PM
edit: whoops, double post
10/20/2009 12:43:45 PM
@salted: Yes, that summary is highly accurate.
10/19/2009 5:25:34 AM
i read the 10 most recent comments( or 20, give or take) and from what i can tell: there's a new site, people want to take this page down even thought it's building a massive linkfest just by not updating, and people are getting angry because he isn't updating a free webocmic. that about sum it up?
10/18/2009 11:47:44 PM
@mimouroto:Couldn't agree more with...Everyone else on the post. In fact. You owe him your thanks for even coming this far in a free webcomic. God be willing that one day trolls actually grow a brain and think about their posts.
10/18/2009 5:50:12 PM
@pinchythecrab: Oh shut up. He has Stopped this comic to focus on his ACTUAL website. So if you can do better be my guest to contact Crispy and Scott to take over this strip you whiny bastard.
10/18/2009 3:52:54 PM
@pinchythecrab: Pinchythecrap stfu and gtfo if you dont like it you jerk... he may be lazy bc he hasent put another comic for awhile but god dammit hes good.
10/5/2009 4:30:20 PM
Scott Kurtzman is a lazy cocksucker, he cut pasted the same character in the same pose three times, except for the last panel, where he's in the same goddamn pose only from behind. I haven't seen such bad skills since Knights of the Dinner Table, congrats Scott!
10/5/2009 4:30:16 PM
9/20/2009 6:03:10 PM
Oh I have no doubt it will... oh, wait...
8/18/2009 6:23:19 PM
@CaptainHomeless: Fine-the least you guys could do is put some kind of disclaimer on the top of the page or SOMETHING that the comic is dead so we don't get people coming in saying "Come on! Release the next issue already!" and the like.
8/17/2009 5:45:55 PM
There are still new people coming to this and other Ding! pages and reading them ... why would we delete the pages?
8/16/2009 4:32:46 PM
@twilytgardnfaery: ya plz do so i check every day for comics and ding is not coming back.
8/13/2009 10:23:32 AM
@ershnuff: Seconded. Just bring it down already, put an end to the ceaseless bickering about the "new" Ding and "is Kurtz ever gonna update? hurrr durr!" etc. Please. Put the nails in the coffin, already, Crispy Gamer.
8/13/2009 8:41:43 AM
"Ding!" iz dead, baby!
8/10/2009 2:25:04 PM
Hey what do you know, Scott hasn't updated the new Ding! on Sundays for the past two weeks. Sigh... hopes shot down yet again.
7/27/2009 3:36:24 PM
AW Snap!!!
7/26/2009 4:48:45 PM
Is this page going to remain up for forever or is Crispy gonna take it down? I think it's been made abundantly clear to everyone that it will never be updated again.
7/24/2009 12:10:41 AM
@birdo: Um you are aware that Ding is now a once per week release (Barring occasional "I'm agt a convention" full week runs)on his normal pvp website. It's been turned more into the adventures of Brinwin Bronzebottom.
7/5/2009 12:54:56 PM
HAHA look at all that fucking text. Why update when you get more hits from people coming to complain about how he doesn't update a niche side project.
7/5/2009 12:54:40 PM
6/30/2009 8:05:30 PM
@hurlyburlycurly: You get a gold star for not paying attention!@DarkKnyght:All I saw in your comment was:blahblahblahblahblahblahNYEEEHHH!blahblahblahblahblahblahblah... etc.
6/29/2009 11:04:40 AM
@hurlyburlycurly: HURR DURR!
6/29/2009 8:41:47 AM
dude hurry up and release a new issue already!
6/28/2009 9:00:43 PM
@ershnuff: That had nothing to do with WoW, if you read all of the recent comics they are the PvP characters playing Dungeons & Dragons and is not Ding!, and people really need to stop bickering over a web comic artist not making updates for a gaming comic especially if they are tied up with business responsibilities such as working on the web comic that Scott produces weekly along with the animated series of PvP that is made with the help of blind ferret entertainment creators of least I could do and looking for group. which yes Lar does crank out a new LICD comic daily but what you don't see is that he has Ryan helping him out by writing up the scripts in advance so all there is left to do is draw the comics. and lar also takes shortcuts at times by using the same backgrounds for the comics and makes changes to fit the situations which drastically shortens the length of time needed to create a daily comic.
6/26/2009 8:21:31 PM
Depressing.No matter how many times I look at this page, the new story (with the REAL Ding! cast) will never develop. I'm trying to be interested in the new Ding!, but it just does nothing for me. It doesn't seem to have a single thing to do with WoW, aside from there being dwarves and dragons and all that... but that's more of a generic fantasy comic than a WoW comic.
6/23/2009 6:22:04 AM
@Katmai: Nothing like reading here that your guild leader has joined the other side ha!
6/22/2009 11:39:40 AM
Well, it was fun while it lasted.I too have found the new Ding! strips that are being posted on PvP to be uninteresting at best.
6/21/2009 11:17:59 AM
@kidsake: @pvponline joined our guild tonight. Well take good care of him, I swear.11:57 PM Jun 19th from Tweetie in reply to pvponlineScott Johnson's Tweet, lol
6/21/2009 11:15:37 AM
@Skilgannon: No worries, I wasn't trying to call you out or anything. Now here's some ironic news, Scott K joined Scott Johnson's Guild the other day. =] And he joined an Alliance Guild with the Project lore folks. Trying to find the Tweets.
6/21/2009 5:28:58 AM
@Chaosinfused: Star Wars also started good and ended Poor. Good analogy! ;D
6/20/2009 1:22:31 AM
@Skilgannon: was about the "ding! stopped here" part, it more STARTED here xD you know, like Star Wars started at number 4 and ended with number 3
6/19/2009 10:46:36 PM
@kidsake: Yeah, I go there today and I see a WoW advert on PvP. I stand corrected on that front. Skull was last online at around June 07 2009, having only been on a few times this year. His last lot of frequent logins to WoW stopped around the end of November last year (WoWArmory has a lot of information) I have no information on his alts. Right or wrong, my opinion is that there has been a definite change in stance from both PvP and P-A with relation to their material concerning RPGs (of either the MMO or PnP variety).
6/19/2009 10:34:09 AM
Scott is not playing WoW. At least not on his main, which, according to him a long time ago was Skull... a troll on the Dark Iron server in the real Panda Attack guild. (I guess this could have changed... the man does apparently have a life.)Skull is level 71. Im sorry... that means you havent really played since Wrath came out.
6/19/2009 9:49:48 AM
Actually, Scott still has Blizz adverts. He really did grow tired of playing WoW:"I've been absent from WOW for months. I think it's time to log in tonight. Project Lore has inspired me to make some time."4:38 PM Jun 17th from TweetDeck From his Twitter.I was just on his site and was greeted with a Blizz ad yesterday, so I don't think there's a conflict of interest at all, just the usual WoW malaise that all suffer at one time or another. =]And by the way, Project Lore is super fun
6/19/2009 9:43:36 AM
@Skilgannon: And the last one too. A P O L O G I E S, not A P O L I G I E SSheesh.
6/19/2009 9:38:03 AM
@Organicbeing: Oops, ya almost got me there with that April fool's joke ;PApoligies for the spelling mistakes in the last post; this text window for comments is giving me a few difficulties in that regard.
6/19/2009 8:42:42 AM
@Skilgannon: Or Is there?http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/wrath/features/bard/bardclass.xml
6/19/2009 7:16:57 AM
@Chaosinfused: I'm sorry, I'm not following. I was trying to point out that since Scott Kurtz, Mike Krahulik and Jerry Holkins have started playing D&D4E as regulars at WotC, there has been a distinct decline in WoW material from both of them. Any WoW related jokes have on either site have all occured prior to the start date of their podcasts, but none since. No more WoW advertising on either of their sites as well. It seems to cooincidental that out of two of the three people mentioned were avid gamers have suddenly decided that they have had enough, so much so, that they won't even have their sites associated with WoW at all. How this relates to Ding!? Things have complicated for Scott because of Ding! at Crispygamer: He has been left with something on an independant site that is now a conflict of interest for him to support, so he has revamped it as D&D (and if people thing that it is still WoW, their aint no bard class in WoW. http://www.pvponline.com/2009/06/15/the-return-of-ding/). I am calling as I see it. Believe me. Or don't, for that matter: It is all the same to me. C'mon. Let the trolling commence.
6/19/2009 4:50:05 AM
@Skilgannon: actually, look back through the archive... this is the BEGINNING of the original Ding... at the intervention comic, the name of the guild is Panda Attack
6/19/2009 12:19:27 AM
@JohnKeefer: That's really unfortunate that Ding! has stopped here. But I guess conflicts of interest are as exactly that: A conflict of interest. Like Penny Arcade, Scott cannot be seen to actively support a professional interest in WoW & be doing D&D4E work at the same time.
6/17/2009 10:45:55 AM
@JohnKeefer: Thank you for the response.
6/17/2009 9:49:55 AM
@Dougprime: Kurtz wanted to take Ding in a new direction and wanted to do it on his site. He wanted to boost his weekend traffic. Nothing more than that. There are more comics here than Ding, especially ones that update regularly. Maybe you'll find one of interest.
6/17/2009 5:08:43 AM
@66rekrul: Yep. I'm done. Well it was a good deal for Crispy. I feel for the guy following up on this. It would have been nice to have gotten some clarification on what happened from anybody involved but apparently that's not going to happen. Peace be with you all.
6/17/2009 2:59:35 AM
So...I think this is now officially a dead comic site. Was nice talking to all of you, but there's really nothing more to talk about. Have fun with your lives.
6/16/2009 11:31:47 AM
Now that Ding has moved off Crispy, we have gotten Paul Southworth to agree to do a new comic for us once a week. We hope to have the first one up today. Many Ding fans should remember Southworth (of Ugly Hill fame) for his art style in a few of the Ding comics.
6/16/2009 10:51:00 AM
@ershnuff: Or...let's not. I have zero interest in a rapping bard narrating the adventures of some warrior in a bar. (How does he play that mandolin if he's gesturing with his hands all the time, anyway?) I'm with Arras..made it through a panel or two, and couldn't be bothered.That said, it's entirely possible that this new (or new new new!) direction will appeal to others...and it had better, because he will lose a number of current readers that just aren't interested in it.
6/16/2009 5:15:23 AM
@ershnuff: I will miss hitsuji the most(sniff) what a great mage he was./cry
6/15/2009 11:29:13 PM
I do admit, I really wanted to see where the story was going to go with Kissybear "the new Panda Attack". I am disappointed that Kissybear won't be seen again. However, that doesn't mean I won't look at what Scott will be doing with the new rendition of Ding!. I have mixed feelings about it and am a little skeptical about the whole thing, but curiosity wins over hesitation to get involved in something that A) Might not be updated regular/at all and B) Might just be too lame and disappointing. It seems to me that Scott's looking more towards a comical in game story telling rather than simply people in the game who play WoW. I'm going to have to disagree with some of you, I don't think Scott quit playing WoW... in my opinion, there's only so much you can do with the "in-game issues and hilarious things that happen in-game" thing.Let's see how good his comical story telling is.
6/15/2009 7:40:51 PM
@LiathroidiDana: it's going to based on the tabletop D&D games he's been playing now...I guess that's what is tickling his fancy.I give it 3 weeks before something shiny distracts him again
6/15/2009 6:59:37 PM
@66rekrul: You argue fairly maturely, she (?) just kinda... comments.Lurker, I'm a lot less stuffy and self-righteous away from the internet, arguing serves as a kind of cathartis, stops the build up of negative emotions. I tend to argue 'til I'm calm, then behave for a while, then move to another site. I'm actually a pretty nice guy, as far as trolls go. >.>
6/15/2009 5:57:04 PM
@Tucker12456: "@Lurker66: ... @66Rekrul:" Much better, glad you can learn from your mistakes. And actually you have it backwards, I am a lot less mature then Lurker. Lurker discusses, I argue.
6/15/2009 5:45:53 PM
So is this new "Ding" gonna be set in the WoW universe or is it gonna be in a new world... I miss the old Kissybear...
6/15/2009 5:36:58 PM
@Tucker12456: "If there is two of you, you come across as the more immature one."Immature to a mundane? I can live with that! ;)You really know how to brighten my day! ^_^
6/15/2009 3:55:26 PM
Oh, man. I'm just gonna give up typing. In my defence, it's dark. >.>Time to employ a spellchecker, methinks...
6/15/2009 3:54:35 PM
Ahaha, we're both as bad as each other, with typos. That should me 'which'.
6/15/2009 3:51:25 PM
@Lurker66: I like how you accuse me of misspelling something, but won't tell me what. Unless you're referring to the fact that I didn't bother with the 66 at the end of your name, in whoch case, rekrul's guilty, too. If there is two of you, you come across as the more immature one.@66rekrul:To quote myself; "But I'll still reply to Lurker here...".I was saying that, even though I suspect you're the same person, I'll reply to Lurker, not you. Sorry, your point is moot.
6/15/2009 3:32:20 PM
@Lurker66: :P Now it's YOU that's not helping!! :P
6/15/2009 3:30:46 PM
@Tucker12456: Oh! They totally told you! :D
6/15/2009 3:29:44 PM
@66rekrul: /edit...believe that, I was..."Just", not "Jusat"
6/15/2009 3:27:48 PM
@Tucker12456: LOL, sorry I've been absent and couldn't counter troll you. Wether or not I think you believe that I was a bit defensive with you because it sounded to me like you were attacking my inability to decipher what to you was a "simple" joke. I don't keep numbers like that in my head because I have enough crap floating around there as it is. As for the double identity, I don't see any reason to confirm or deny your theory because it doesn't matter what you believe. Jusat, please. Respect Lurker and reply to LURKER not to me just on the off chance you might be wrong about us being one person and not two people who know each other outside of the message boards.
6/15/2009 3:15:06 PM
@Tucker12456: Oh and at least you managed to get the letters in the right order this time. Good for you! Proving that even stupid people get things right once in a while by sheer luck. ^_^
6/15/2009 3:13:08 PM
@Tucker12456: Yeah, early morning post. Eyes still blurry from sleep. By your posts it must be early morning for you ALL the time. Go ahead and reply to me once it passes beyond morning for you. ^_^
6/15/2009 3:12:04 PM
@mrmighty: I like when you said "I think it's been clear for awhile now that Scott is either uninterested or uninspired in the strip as it was" and "While I would prefer a WoW strip, given the choice between a strip that the creator is uninterested in vs. a strip that he is enthusiastic about, I'll take the one he's enthusiastic about."I am guessing that the Real Reason that Scott quit writing Ding! (in its WoW incarnation) is the same reason other comics (such as Penny Arcade and Ctrl-Alt-Del) made strips saying they did ... he simply quit playing the game, whether he got bored with it or found it too addictive.Here's a Ding! strip that may illustrate the point (I take any chunky guy wearing a baseball cap as Scott, that's just my interpretation):http://www.crispygamer.com/comics/ding/Ding-2008-11-10.aspxLike some of you, I am not a D&D fan - finished with that back in the 70's (rolls eyes). However, I can understand his enthusiasm with the new group of peers. I downloaded one of the podcasts but I'm a visual person, not audio (audial? aural?), so I doubt I will manage to get thru it.Good luck with the new strip tho, Scott.RIP, Ding!
6/15/2009 2:39:55 PM
I am happy for Scott. There are too many WoW/MMO strips out there and just the thought of possible crossovers with the Penny Arcade guys is exciting. Here's why he's so excited about doing it this way:http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/4arch/podGreat podcasts! They even have the Wil as an Elf.I will still come here because I enjoy the other strips here too.I believe the new Ding! will be a fun ride and entertaining./cheer...oops, I mean (looks to the DM) I give Scott the Longshifter traditional cheer.
6/15/2009 2:26:56 PM
ok , i have been checking in a couple of times a week.I have been reading ding for a year, even went back and read the old ones posted on this site. I have never felt the need to comment. But ... I see with the new Ding on PvP that i should say i see there is no more reason for me to check either site anymore. A bard? really? last thing i want to read is a bard's lame song of past adventure. I would rather just see the adventure. You know scot in my D&D game, back in High School, (that was before WotC messed it up) the bard was always died after singing or trying to sing. well bye everyone , was a nice comic while it lasted.bookmark deleted.
6/15/2009 2:03:49 PM
http://www.pvponline.com/ allow me to be the first to drink to the death and rebirth of ding
6/15/2009 1:18:33 PM
@Lurker66: Oh yeah, I'd not have called you out on that, but you tried to be smart, typing it backwards... incorrectly.Sorry for double post.
6/15/2009 1:16:49 PM
@Lurker66: This reminds me of that joke about how hard it is to spell 'dyslexia'... apparently, you can't even pronounce it. At least I managed to get the right letters, apparently.But where are my letters in the wrong order? Sorry if that was a really smart comment that flew completely over my head, but I didn't get it.
6/15/2009 12:50:04 PM
Oh look! New crappy Ding! on the PvP site! ^_^
6/15/2009 12:45:20 PM
@Tucker12456: It's spelled Lurker66. Right letters, wrong order. Are you dyslectic? ?citcelsyd uoy erA
6/15/2009 12:35:49 PM
I'm intrigued by the new direction Ding! is going. It is true that it doesn't have much to do with the old strips, but I think it's been clear for awhile now that Scott is either uninterested or uninspired in the strip as it was, and he seems to have enthusiasm for the concepts and characters in this new strip.While I would prefer a WoW strip, given the choice between a strip that the creator is uninterested in vs. a strip that he is enthusiastic about, I'll take the one he's enthusiastic about. It's more likely there'll be more than one strip a month (or two, or three).
6/15/2009 12:33:11 PM
@marigus: I just want to say one thing about that. Art isn't like most other businesses. I don't begrudge Scott taking Ding in a direction he finds more interesting. There comes a point where if an Artist is no longer making his work primarily for himself, it gets lame, theres no heart in it. Because the artist is bored. I think we saw that with the last few Ding! posts. Case and point, Ron Moore always said that he didn't write the new Battlestar Galactica for the fans, he wrote it for himself. What he ended up making was a (now, obviously this is opinion, but its a largely shared one I think) masterpiece, because he wrote all the things that he had always wanted to see in a TV show. If the new direction Scott is taking Ding! in tickles him, then I think we may see a jump in quality. Now, that doesn't mean everyone has to like that direction, but there will be more heart in it and I think we should all give it a chance.
6/15/2009 11:40:33 AM
Scott's having issues posting a comment here. He'll have something to say, if it ever lets him post.
6/15/2009 11:23:11 AM
@66rekrul: Unfortunately, ignorance won't save you from the end of the world as we know it. Woe is me! ;_;And I'm hoping you didn't assume I believe that? 'Cause it seems more likely that the Aztec just figured if they were around much longer than then, they could update the calendar... and, to counter your point, surely knowing something is better than ignorance?Sorry if I'm wrong, but I suspect you're using two accounts to get two strikes at people. Either that, or you're two, bored schoolgirls, just out to cause trouble. But I'll still reply to Lurker here...Whilever there's people, it's a given that there'll be some stupid, 'cataclysmic' event, just around the corner. There's been two or three 'ends of the world' so far, I think. But hey, it's a hell of a talking point, especially if someone who believes it joins in. You can argue relentlessly, safe in the knowledge that, if the world does end, they won't be around to say "I told you so!".
6/15/2009 10:51:11 AM
I'm happy with the direction he's taking. You ever think the reason he doesn't want to continue Ding! the way it is because of all the unmitigated douchenoggery that is the comment section on this here comic? Most of you are a bunch of ridiculous, pompous, entitled crybabies. Maybe he wants to make a comic that is less like a business (like PvP) and more enjoyable for him to come back and draw? The retards here certainly aren't helping anything.Besides, fuck WoW and fuck MMOs. D&D for life, bitches.
6/15/2009 10:44:18 AM
Oh no. It's been "New Coke"d
6/15/2009 10:33:49 AM
@Sahails: Kurtz doesn't care what you want! He does what he wants. And now there is no reason for me to ever come back to this page, or any page mentioning Ding! Great business idea there, don't listen to the customer.
6/15/2009 10:27:02 AM
@Cor: I remember the very first incarnation of Ding! years back. It was an EQ comic. Meh. Ding! not being an MMO comic just doesn't make sense. I mean, that was the whole point of the title... Ding! being the level up sound in EQ, which became the standard term for leveling up in MMOs.
6/15/2009 10:22:05 AM
@LiathroidiDana: Why even bother calling it ding now?
6/15/2009 10:13:01 AM
Dang it! I like the old Ding too. I don't want to read about Binwin, I want the WoW stories. Those were funny. Like, really, funny. :P
6/15/2009 9:51:22 AM
@LiathroidiDana: blech...I liked Kissybear and Panda Attack much better. I made it halfway through the second panel before I gave up.Oh well, Ding was a good thing while it lasted
6/15/2009 9:51:21 AM
6/15/2009 6:06:38 AM
And theres a new Ding at PVP Online.... Another new direction.
6/14/2009 9:35:58 PM
@Lurker66: When the new comic is posted the world will end. Kurtz = NostradomisHe keeps changing the date.
6/14/2009 1:30:15 PM
@Tucker12456: I wonder what new date the stupid people will adopt as the end of the world when 12/21/2012 comes and goes and the world is still here?...
6/14/2009 5:10:35 AM
@Tucker12456: Fortunately I am not that paranoid and superstitious, so I think anyone who did NOT get the joke has the right to lord it over those who did.
6/14/2009 4:04:48 AM
@66rekrul: Cat Bed Awesome, actually.I'm pretty sure you knew what it meant. Troll <3Also the 'joke' was that that guy's name, '12212012' is the date when the world's gonna end, according to the Incan calendar. (12/21/12, in case you still need a hand... ;))
6/14/2009 1:04:37 AM
@66rekrul: CBA = "can't be arsed", which basically means something along the lines of that they're not going to do something because it requires too much effort. I have no idea where it came from, and I had no idea what it meant when I first encountered it either. I don't think it should be as widely used as it is, because it is a very, as you said, obscure acronym.
6/14/2009 1:00:27 AM
@66rekrul:
6/13/2009 10:21:52 PM
I just re-read the comic because it had been so long since I had looked at it.Its like a new comic all over again.Except for that new comic smell.And new comic.
6/13/2009 6:27:21 PM
@Tucker12456: I would, if you spelled out words instead of abbreviating something obscure like CBA? Cow Bell Anal I assume?
6/13/2009 3:16:12 PM
@66rekrul: Red sky at night, etc... You didn't get the joke in the argument comment, amirite?
6/12/2009 11:56:43 PM
@Warcrack4kids: Shhhh, you're revealing my counterargument!!
6/12/2009 8:59:12 PM
@66rekrul: But sometimes the sky IS red :o
6/12/2009 7:22:49 PM
@Tucker12456: You can get into an argument with me. Sky=Red. (maybe a "moron" would be too much?)
6/12/2009 2:50:37 PM
@12212012: I want to get in an argument with you, so I can be like "What happens if you're wrong? Will the world, like, end? But cba, so I'll just use the joke there. Don't think a lot of people'll get it, though.And you're wrong. Scott's arrogant, not depressed.
6/12/2009 1:33:21 PM
It would be nice if he gave his artist colleagues a chance for guest strips while he is on this hiatus.
6/12/2009 11:57:08 AM
I like Ding, its free, fact is, if Scott never posts another one thats fine with me too. Hey, I read all these and I loved them. didnt cost me a dime and I enjoyed them. I like Scott and I will continue to find his stuff and buy what I can.thanks buddy
6/12/2009 11:18:12 AM
@Tauhid: It has a lot to do with, as I said, the fact that he's made the comic into his career. The comic ( PvP ) has been so successful, he's gained a lot of clout in the webcomic and even the gaming community. So much so that he's gotten a swelled head over it. He freely criticizes other cartoonists over things like poor update schedules. So, when he shows the same habit himself even on a side project, he's gonna catch a lot of flak for it.
6/12/2009 11:01:07 AM
I am The Game
6/12/2009 10:57:37 AM
Man I got depressed one year and just stopped updating my comic for six months. No warning no, no filler, no explanation. I just hid. I think during that time I got 4 or 5 flames in my comments section and one or two angry emails. Scott must really be doing something right.
6/12/2009 10:54:47 AM
@Tyger42:
6/12/2009 10:08:39 AM
@12212012: If the arrogant blow-hard would at least give us some heads up on what's going on, there'd be less promise. Instead there's silence and the occasional empty promise. And, yet again, Scott's comics are his career. As suck, people expect a bit more out of him...
6/12/2009 8:31:55 AM
I am a person who really does not like change, and I think I love this comic.
6/12/2009 8:28:22 AM
@boom_headshot:
6/12/2009 4:28:12 AM
Trolling for teh winz!
6/11/2009 11:58:54 PM
@12212012: Wait I'm a troll? Homg I'm turning a new page in my life!! /sniff :D
6/11/2009 7:12:15 PM
@12212012: We lost a game? What was the score? I hope it wasn't by a lot...
6/11/2009 6:20:24 PM
@Warcrack4kids: You guys make a helluva troll team...as to all you self absorbed asshats out on internet land, why don't you try to set up a webcomic and see how much time you have left for... well... anything else!all these cries for blood on account of one guy not submitting to the endless cries of MOAR from you ravenous harpy beasts and not a word about well maybe its his goddamn right not to satisfy you. I mean shit, it's not like any of you assholes pay the guy...whatever, i can't believe i fell for it.btw you all lost the game. (but i guess me too)
6/11/2009 3:55:13 PM
@CaptainHomeless: Aww shucks, such awsome words :D
6/11/2009 2:01:48 PM
You guys are crazy ... [color=red]CRAZY![/color] -Chris
6/11/2009 1:05:50 AM
@avatar1337: NINE THOUSAND AND THREE TO BE EXACT!!!!!!!!!!!!!NINE THOUSAND AND FOUR!!!!!!!!!!!
6/10/2009 9:20:26 PM
Behold, comment # 564!
6/10/2009 7:10:03 PM
@Imadethis2comment: Nine thousand and ONE!!
6/10/2009 3:46:13 PM
@boom_headshot: I wish these comments were OVER NINE THOUSAND!!!!!!!
6/10/2009 12:51:35 PM
@Crash207: I have to agree, NPC's much better than Ding these days... Granted that isn't saying much but at least she updates (nice that she's doubled her update rate since starting too).
6/10/2009 12:35:11 PM
OK. I'm done here forever. There is now way the possibly coming comic can be worth the wait and wasted time checking here daily. Thanks anyway. BTW NPC is awesome and updates regularly. L8r.
6/10/2009 6:27:38 AM
@Lurker66: It's over NINE THOUSAAAAAANNNNDDDD :DOMG I looove the way someone harrassed someone's vent with this phrase ^^
6/10/2009 1:28:24 AM
@Arras: blech..sorry for the multi-posts.
6/10/2009 1:27:48 AM
@66rekrul: I'm not sure what I was hoping for with the twitter thing, but after his last blow-off, I'm not inclined to bother attempting to be nice or engage him in any kind of conversation anymoreIf he's getting pissed off because I sent him two tweets about Ding after two months of deafening silence, he really doesn't get it and is so lost in his own little world where he's the rockstar of webcomics that nothing will get through to him
6/10/2009 1:27:38 AM
6/10/2009 1:03:48 AM
@Arras: Honestly, has anyone just poked him and said, "Look, why not just post your reassurances on your DING site instead of Twitter, where most people don't even know to look for it!?" Honestly, if he can't be bothered to post ONE little note on here, why should we bother to be patient or respectful to him? It's not like he even looks on here anyways.
6/9/2009 10:46:15 PM
aw damn. it's gonna be hella different if kissybear's guildies aren't in the comic from now on... i mean hell, kissybear's dad was actually playing the game well and typing legibly xD
6/9/2009 6:11:53 PM
@66rekrul: I'm glad you said it. It was either that or a skaa band reference.
6/9/2009 3:50:35 PM
@Imadethis2comment: I want us to break 9000. ^_^
6/9/2009 3:49:02 PM
@Imadethis2comment: from Twitter: OMG dude. Here. Ding will return soon on my website as a sunday feature. Just working out some character design/writing first. HPPY?We have 'til Sunday it seems. Though, Sunday could be any Sunday not just the 14th. Took us about two months to get to 550, so another month and a half and we should be there
6/9/2009 3:28:17 PM
@Arras: I want us to break 1000.
6/9/2009 2:20:15 PM
@Warcrack4kids: make that two orders :PWe're at 548/549 comments now. Oh yeah, from Twitter:Arras: @pvponline: you've pretty much given up on Ding! haven't you?Pvponline: @arras: No I haven't. It's just gonna be something different soon. Hang tight.Feels like more of the same...would be nice if he actually said that to more people than just me, but hey it's a start.
6/9/2009 1:12:36 PM
Holy crap I want nachos now D:It's hard (and a bit sad) to believe that we're almost at the 600 post marking if we haven't broken THAT already lol.
6/9/2009 1:06:33 PM
@boom_headshot: Madness?MADNESS!?ThisisSPARTA!!!
6/9/2009 12:17:20 PM
Id actually be kinda let down if there was a new comic. Then wed have to wait another 3 months to get the posts up.
6/9/2009 10:47:35 AM
@66rekrul: we make a fresh batch of nachos every 50-75 posts, they go quickly
6/9/2009 5:01:38 AM
This is no comic. This is MADNESS! (actually it just looks like a message board)
6/9/2009 12:39:00 AM
@Lurker66: Considering how long this thread has been going on I am afraid of the nachos.
6/9/2009 12:00:55 AM
@66rekrul: I come for the nachos.
6/8/2009 9:10:00 PM
@Arras: I just come to see the comments.
6/8/2009 5:59:30 PM
so, I'm getting kind of tired of checking here day in and day out, in some vain hope that a new comic or some kind of update will just magically appear. Yes, I am a naive little optimist sometimesWell, I've decided to put some of my annoyance in Kurtz' face, hopefully in a way he won't be able to ignore. If Twitter is his new favorite medium, so be it. Everyone who's curious about the state of Ding!, I highly recommend you login (or create) to your Twitter account and start sending him @ replies and/or direct messages, inquiring about Ding. No need to be mean or vulgar, just ask what's up. I figure if enough people start doing that, he'll realize just how many fans are still interested in Ding! Darn..there's my naive optimism again. His twitter feed is pvponline. Happy tweeting ;)
6/8/2009 1:42:35 PM
@Katmai That's exactly why I stopped reading Barkeater Lake. I got tired of checking back to see repeats, and then when he restarted new strips I didn't feel interested enough to find the beginning of the current storyline. The only reason I check here is a) I enjoy the strip, and b) the link is there on the PvP website. If that link wasn't there, I'd be checking in a lot less often. I have in the past - for awhile there, I was only checking once a month or so. Lately, the biggest reason to check in is the comments.
6/8/2009 1:03:51 PM
@ Scott The trolls are getting restless. I understand that life happens. This is just one of many web comics that I read and it is not the only one where the cartoonist has taken a break from updating. In all of the other web comics I read however, the cartoonist has at least made some attempt to provide something for the fans during each hiatus. One such web comic that I read is Barkeater Lake at http://www.barkeaterlake.com/ In that comic, the cartoonist has had many gaps during which he was not posting new comics. However, during the worst of these gaps (one of which ended recently) he has posted classic (or favorite) old strips as filler material. Other cartoonists whose web comics I read have done the same thing. Perhaps, if you truly intend to continue with Ding! then you might consider doing this as well. Just a thought. I will admit that I no longer visit this comic on a daily basis. It is now relegated to my once a week collection (when I read the comments here)... and if it continues to go without updates, it may end up in that class of comic that I check on once in a blue moon.
6/8/2009 1:58:24 AM
@youfod: His comics are his career. These may be a side project, but he's not exactly performing up to snuff with his main project either.In short, yes, I'm serious. You may be content with Scott half-assing it, but some of us expect some work ethic out of the arrogant blow-hard.
6/8/2009 1:31:16 AM
I know he does this on his own time as a hobby and owes nothing to us. But you think he could at least man up and just admit he's done with this comic, like that's not already obvious. =(
6/7/2009 7:37:38 PM
Scott said something about DING! on this website:https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4989649127373312714&postID=1968099463358849553 kurtz said... I like to keep people guessing.Not much I know
6/7/2009 6:36:56 PM
Alright against my better judgment I've decided to throw my own voice into this massive discussion. I'm not going to rag on anyone or anything over this issue and I'm not about to start making up arguments or create reasons as to why I think Scott hasn't posted or replied to any comments here. This is purely a post about what seems to be the issue going on here and how I perceive the situation.For any artist, writer, poet, and entertainer in any artistic medium the most important factor are the fans. The fans are what make artists famous. Sure a person may be talented and I applaud them for it but if people do not like their work or pay any attention to them then they do not become popular and they stay little more than a talented nobody. If I had such talent that I created my own webcomic then I would be elated to find that there were people out there that enjoyed my work. Not only would I be grateful for it but I would try and please them and share my gift. This is what Scott has been doing for quite some time now. He's been producing PVP which is a stable and high quality comic and he's made a living off of it. Now this side project of Ding, regardless of whether or not he intended to continue it seriously is still something that fans enjoy. If I were doing such a project and I, for example, lost interest in it, or maybe no longer had the time to work on it then I would inform the public of that fact. Maybe I'm missing the comment or something, maybe its buried in an RSS feed or on twitter but I shouldn't have to go looking and exploring for an answer to a rather large and obvious question, Whats the status of Ding? Is it being discontinued? If it is then that is alright, I don't mind if the artist can't complete his work. All I would like is the courtesy of being told that fact. By not commenting or giving us any information Scott is ignoring the people that made him what he is today. All we want is one quick obvious post Scott.We just want answers.
6/7/2009 6:36:53 PM
6/7/2009 6:16:53 PM
@earthmate: on the contrary, not responding is seen as a challenge that is completely irresistable to any troll. See just how long you can press buttons before you find the right one.
6/7/2009 5:24:08 PM
@Tyger42: lol are you being serious? he makes these ON HIS OWN TIME!!! You sir have no idea what your talking about.
6/7/2009 2:00:46 PM
@King Zombie: Well said. And I have to just repeat what I said earlier: Scott has gotten too arrogant with his success. He's so solidly entrenched as a "big player" in web comics that he feels he can do no wrong. He certainly has no issues with throwing his ( considerable ) weight around against other cartoonists...To be quite frank, not only has his "work ethic" slipped the more successful he's gotten, the quality of PvP has as well, IMO. Ding! had been a good step back up, but it's gotten frustrating to follow. Honestly, I think Ding! was at his best with the little "stupid player" type stories.The lack of updates or communication is frustrating and flat-out inexcusable, side-project or not. People expect better from a career web cartoonist. Scott, honestly, seems to not care anymore. As long as he gets paid for what he does.
6/7/2009 10:38:54 AM
@King Zombie: Cool story, bro.Unfortunately, we don't seem to fit into his agenda. ^^So your post was probably in vain. Also, I'm tempted to take a leaf out of 66rekrul's book and "try to make people rethink their views and opinions". One could even say you're 'Philosophi-troll'. Lamest pun, ever.
6/6/2009 10:25:32 PM
@ Scott KurtzScott, Ding is your strip and it's your right to do whatever you like with it. Let me first state that I enjoy Ding and look forward to when it updates. My issue is not with the lack of updates but with your empty promises.Someone stated earlier "it's free and you don't owe us anything" however I disagree. I think you owe us (the fans, not the flamers) respect. If you would make a post stating "Guys, Ding is my secondary project and I'll try to update on a timely manner which means it could update next week or next month. I can't make any promises other than when I get time you'll get a new strip" I'd be okay with that. You let us know what to expect which is understandable. What is frustrating many here are the posts stating you are going to update weekly (stated several times over the lifespan of Ding-including pulling in a new artist and again when you took back full control), you are going to be part of this community (stated in your first and only post in this community assuming it really was you and not a poser), you will have a major announcement on said day (twitter messages) getting our hopes up just to disappoint us. If you are not sure that you can keep the promise it would suit the community better not to say anything. It's the equivalent of saying "hey, want to go to dinner Friday? I'll stop by and pick you up." Then not showing up and not calling to cancel. It shows an incredible lack of respect to us who follow Ding. Based on some of the comments I could see where you'd get frustrated and want to write it off but the critics represent a small fraction of those who follow Ding. And, finally, don't take this as me venting but more as constructive criticism. I would love to see weekly updates but as long as Ding's not dead I'm fine checking every so often in hopes of finding a new strip.
6/6/2009 10:06:12 PM
@66rekrul: "You have to throw us for loops that we can't turn back around on you and thus make it "unfun" to target you anymore."Yes, That could be true. But would you continue to post if NO one ever responded to your posts in the first place? Would that not be the same thing as taking away your loop back of opportunity ? I have been on many blogs where this very thing happens. You read post after post,and then,there is a post that’s way out in left field,an obvious troll, BUT,,, no one responds to that post. Oh,,yes,,the troll may post several times in an attempt to gain recognition but failing this he goes away. However,on blogs that I have visited where people reply to a troll,usually with snide remarks or just plain name calling,the whole blog devolves into a flame fest. And this is what kills the potential for information to pass between parties,as everyone is trying to “one up the troll” and in the end it’s the troll who will win. Because he has succeeded in his plan to disrupt things. I also think that banning a troll does not help either. He will just make a new name and re-register. And why not. ? He has found a fertile ground in which to sow his seeds of havoc. In my opinion, by acknowledging or even banning a troll, your just inviting recurring troll syndrome. I think it’s better to just ignore the troll,and all the people who try to answer his posts. Actually you should also place a temp ban on the people who reply to a troll because they are the ones who keep him going, and therefore make the troll even more anxious to create havoc. Of course I have just shot myself in the foot on that one,seeing that I responded to you, a self acclaimed troll. But you’re a good troll in the fact that you try to make people rethink their views and opinions. You’re not the hate bashing troll, out to just create misery and havoc for just the fun of it. Wow !! this is the most I have ever posted on one blog. Sorry for the long winded speech.
6/6/2009 4:31:55 AM
@earthmate: The fun thing about trolls is we don't think rationally. You have to throw us for loops that we can't turn back around on you and thus make it "unfun" to target you anymore.
6/6/2009 4:21:01 AM
@earthmate: Probably not... :p
6/6/2009 3:03:46 AM
@Dougprime: Sir, while I do agree with you. Don’t you think that by opening the field to suggestions about how to deal with a simple troll , that you won’t start the flame war all over again. ? To me, it sounds like you’re trying to “one up” this guy. If you just ignore him and let him think he won, Then maybe that will be the end and you won’t hear about it any more ? After all, give a bully or a clown some rope and he’ll eventually hang himself. Am I wrong in this line of thinking ?
6/6/2009 2:23:58 AM
Well, JFlRDL hasn't replied to my last posting, which could indicate he hasn't been able, willing or had time to post a reply. I'm going to give it about 48 hours from now, and if he hasn't replied by that point I'm going to assume he has no objections to my proposal. If anyone has any counter-proposals to address the issue I would be open to suggestion. As far as a future flame war is considered, earthmate is quite right in not wanting to deal with one. There are some that consider those types of situations amusing, and if there were rules to that effect here, I'd be more than willing to throw down for as long as it takes. The point of the matter, though, is this is Crispy Gamer's house, and their rules on this subject are quite clear. While I consider JFlRDL to be the more flagrant violater in this issue, nobody else should have to deal with the exchange he initiated and I allowed to perpetuate.
6/6/2009 2:16:43 AM
@Lurker66: I truly hope not, but if it is to be ,, then so be it.
6/6/2009 2:07:22 AM
@earthmate: Probably not...
6/6/2009 2:06:58 AM
6/6/2009 12:56:58 AM
Is, or is there not going to be any more Ding!does any one really know ??Is there any one who really knows for sure ??Been monitoring this for several months now , and I have to say I’m disappointed in all the infighting. So ..can any one shed any light on this without starting a flame war ???
6/5/2009 9:46:40 PM
for a little while, I actually tricked myself into believing Kurtz would follow through on his alleged update today.
6/5/2009 5:48:05 PM
Look at me, I argue on Teh Internets.
6/5/2009 5:23:54 PM
@jflrdl: "Look, we nailed you fair and square."Interesting for someone who uses "gay" as an insult to brag about nailing another guy. It's really okay to be homosexual honey, you don't need to hide behind your self loathing.
6/5/2009 5:19:06 PM
@jflrdl: well I don't have much choice there unless I shave everything down there.
6/5/2009 11:51:55 AM
@Azuth: That was actually a part of Dougprime's earlier post. But you've got a good point, it's just excuse after excuse with Scott.Also, sorry, double post.
6/5/2009 11:49:05 AM
Been here since the start, just never bothered commenting much, so I've seen the change in Dougprime's argument.However, like he said, opinoions and ideas change. And while he's not always on the right track, he's well spoken and he's obviously got a fair bit of common sense.jflrdl, on the other hand, you're nothing but a douche. You make oh-so-hilarious comments, then laugh at them yourself. Your sentence structure annoys me, you make numerous errors and you come across as nothing more than an immature, teen troll. As for the proposed voting, if it goes ahead, jflrdl gets my vote. To be banned, to clarify.
6/5/2009 9:09:33 AM
@jflrdl: Well lets see what we've got. You offered an olive branch (of sorts), "we toast you as an opponent" blah blah.....ah, then the backhand, take some of my posts from the begining of April, ignore the context of everything since that point (including revelations about Scott's previous gaps in posting and your behind the scenes mechanations as Newb) and then......what? "We win?" What are you, a multiple personality? Dude you have got to learn some patience. You should have either waited for me to accept the hand you profered (either to smack me down instantly after) or waited for me to come out and attack you. Now you just look like a twit. As far as everybody laughing at me is concerned, haven't seen much of it yet (and can't really hear it anyway). I have to admit, the paste and click was a clever if lazy way to proceed. At least you didn't go for a third round of "homo" attacks. Let's be clear on something. You spent the last three months as Newb to damage somebody else's image, and even more stupidly came out to take credit for it. I bought into it to the point where I thought Newb was Scott, or at the very least a misguided fanboy. While I stand by every post I've made, I also stand by the fact that opinions and ideas can change. I've obviously made some adjustments in mine. If that makes me the jilted fanboy, I'll accept the judgement of my peers here. So here's what I propose. Failcraft managed to get banned for less than what you did, but I'll take some credit for being "suckered". So how about it. Public vote, you're banned (both as jflrdl.....what the hell does that mean anyway....and as newb) I'm banned (and unlike you, Dougprime is all I go by anywhere) or we're both banned. You agree, I'll e-mail crispy gamer personally. I understand for you it won't mean much, you'll likely just create another identity. Me, I'll honor it. Stand and Deliver.
6/5/2009 6:48:40 AM
@jflrdl: Ooooh, he moved back into his home office? Okay, meanwhile Howard Taylor has basically shut down his officer while it's remodeled. Guess what, Schlock Mercenary has still been up on time (actually early since the site updates around 11pm EDT).Why is it Scott can't get on the ball and act like a professional cartoonist? Hell, Howard updated every day without resorting to filler while he still worked at Novell. Scott doesn't work outside of PVP, what's his excuse?
6/5/2009 6:15:06 AM
@Dougprime: Having actually grown up in the era of free television, where the only thing you had to do to watch TV was buy one and an antenna, (since cable and sat dishes were in their industrial infancy) I am more than aware that the advertisers buy the programs, and if they don't get a return, they stop advertising regardless of how much the fans like a particular program/magazine/etc ad nauseum. So you are paying nothing. NADA. ZILCH. BUBKISS. Worse, the whole declaration that any dissension to the contrary is BS in your consideration without you presenting even a sliver of logical support is the perfect example of a unsound argument. Even if you were to purchase the products routinely advertised on this site, you would still only be paying for the product you purchased. So unless you open up that wallet and produce some dinero (visa and mastercard would be just fine) and pay either Scott or Crispy Gamer directly, you have paid for nothing. By the by, your skill as a motivational writer needs some work. "Don't wank out, your in the home stretch". Dude, we have no idea how long he's planning on running this storyline. What would be a successful run? He posts once a week for a month? A year? He's never late again or he loses a fingertip? How about we take a breath and gain some perspective. BTW in case any of you have popped over to his website lately (where he's been posting without fail I might add) you might notice he's recently move into a home office and lost internet at the same time. His last update indicate he was posting from a starbucks. You can take that either as an excuse on his part or just realize that life happens, and that the posting of a 4 panel comic strip sometimes has just got to take a back seat.And so this......WE win you lose.......
6/5/2009 6:11:13 AM
@Dougprime: I'm not suggesting there isn't a chain of money. I merely suggested you are only a small part of it, and not one directly linked to the production of this comic. Just as an example, the current advertiser on this page as I type is the United States Air Force with their "Echo Zulu" campaign. Unless you're planning on enlisting, you've made no purchase, meaning you have no connection with the money the advertiser has paid to crispy gamer. Since Scott may or may not even be paid for his efforts here, he may not even have a direct connection to those funds. Therefore, you haven't paid anything. We could of course posit a different advertiser. Let's say it was McDonald's offering up the ad money. Just because you bought a Big Mac doesn't mean you've paid anything in regard to this comic. Unless the advertising has a direct impact on you, you're not part of that big money chain. Even by buying the product, your contribution in the exceedingly large chain of those funds is so tiny that any claim to ownership would be unsupportable. Now on the same token, let's say you advertised on Crispy Gamer personally (say hypothetically, you're the manufacturer of the nifty new foot wear that's sweeping the country, the " Air Dragons". You're money is being invested based on the idea that Scott's comic will draw people in to see your ad. Then you would be entitled to claim that your paying for this comic to be produced. I would have been more persuaded by an argument on your part stating that your interest, along with that of other fans of Scott's work, is a vital part in his continuing to be able to work at his chose profession. At that point you're not paying for it, but you are contributing to its continued existence, since Crispy Gamer won't put up a comic that nobody's interested in reading. As to you having a bad day and not wanting to invest in the argument as much as you could, I'd say everybody's entitled to one of those. :)Reply »And this
6/5/2009 6:10:01 AM
@Dougprime: Various and sundry spellings and misspellings aside (perhaps if I had just said organ grinder instead a tangent need not have been taken at all) your main emphasis seems to imply that trust has been lost. What exactly have we lost with this trust issue? If Scott doesn't post when he says that he will, what has been lost by that inaction on his part, especially when there is no consideration on his part to perform. This is a free website. Everyone of us posting at this point is not charged one red cent. Crispy Gamer, as a website, is not obligated to us to deliver or force Scott to deliver any product (namely his artwork). My point, as per the previous post I made, is that complaints in regard to the delivery of something completely free on the part of the receiver is akin to complaining about a street performer (organ grinder, juggler, mime or any other denizen of the streets you care to choose)not showing up when he says he's going to show up. If you weren't going to pay him anyway, his not showing up generates no loss for either him or you unless he attacks you or otherwise does you some harm. If you were compensating him in some way (and I'm sorry, but your adoration or lack there of is not compensation)then you have a right to complain about his lack of timely delivery. It's perfectly acceptable to say "his strip sucks" for whatever subjective reason you prefer to apply, but criticism about not living up to promises or some non existent schedule of delivery is, on its face, ridiculous. If you can come up with an argument on how his lack of delivery hurt you somehow, let's hear it. The philosophical contortions you would have to go through to make that work would be entertaining to say the very least.Reply »And this
6/5/2009 6:09:12 AM
@Dougprime: My God! What exactly is the fuss about here? Who cares whether it's and old strip or not? I've never seen it before and it was funny. He updated sooner rather than later compared to his previous track record. Personally, I've gone through all of Scott's archives on his website and haven't paid him a dime yet, so personally I'm grateful for the entertainment he's provided me at NO CHARGE! The arguments some of you are presenting can be boiled down to being pissed off at the herdy-gerdy man for not showing up with his monkey at a particular street corner. Or for that matter he shows up, but you're pissed off that the monkey wasn't more entertaining that day than on a previous day where you didn't pay him either. You can be pissed off if you show up and the monkey attacks you or the herdy-gerdy guy pulls a gun and robs you.Reply »This
6/5/2009 5:48:41 AM
@Dougprime: Look, we nailed you fair and square. Be a man and admit that there is some one better than you. You have no leg to stand on, You have been the go boy for Kurtz from the get go, now you are not. Fess up,, grow a few,, and have a cool one,,, We toast you as an opponent.. No shame in losing, Just do better next time. Your grade is C- We know you can do better next time.El Camino Debate team
6/5/2009 5:30:17 AM
@jflrdl: And now you're sucking up to Scott after months of pretending to be someone else to drag him down? Dude I will give you credit for this, when Gawd was handing out the weasel gene he robbed about 100 of them and gave it all to you. You're not a theatrical agent by any chance are you? His predicted response? "I got you, you gay fan boy!" Well, I could do this all night, but I actually have to move on to other matter's, and jflop could use some time to develop some more material since he's "come out of the closet" so to speak (sorry, couldn't resist).
6/5/2009 5:25:49 AM
@Dougprime: @Dougprime: Boy am I glad my last post got swallowed by this excruciating interface. @jflrdl: I was about to mention that two posts went by since you're big reveal, and all you were able to do was call me a "homo" twice. But now a shot at my mom? Sonny boy, you're out in the open now. You've got to be more than a one trick pony. I'll be waiting out here in left field if you think you can hit something I can't field. You know, I thought you were going to actually be entertaining. Quite frankly you're overcompensating. You've "taken" me, you've "had" me, and now my mommy doesn't love me? Boo hoo. Sounds like somebody isn't getting nearly enough love, and I know I'm not the candidate. You should've headed for cover when you had the chance. Now you have to make do with what little mother nature gave you on top and bottom.Reply »Every one notice how he is not talking about Scott Kurtz any more?? This,, is how you troll,,,,,,,,SUCKER !!!!!
6/5/2009 5:22:05 AM
@Dougprime: Sounds like your grasping at straws dougprime. Dude I build a shoe and you put it on and loudly proclaim that it fits, well that your fault. Dude the whole place is laughing at you,, cant you hear it??? You are a class "A" Fool and yet you still keep on dancing to a tune only your can hear.
6/5/2009 5:17:14 AM
For all you know, ALL of you are taking part in some sick social experiment. The way all of you interact is similar to how people mentally fondle memories of a dead friend, never getting over the facts. You may wish to second guess everything, or even come up with plausible reasons to explain why things are the way they are, but at the end...who cares, it's dead and not coming back.Anyone recall Andy Kaufman? If so, then you should realize that there is no need to create a new joke or comic. We've become the joke and comic. Let the masses entertain themselves for months on end over the same old prank. "Why not!?! We still get the traffic." says the site's spokes-hole. Leave the masses talking about "what went wrong" and "Scott must be a dick" while we sit aside to laugh and watch. All of you better start laughing it up, because you all indirectly became the comic, it's punch line, and it's mark as one of the most effective non-updated web comics in web comic history.Suck it up kiddies and move the shit on! After all, we have so many other less talented web artists to make fun of!M. Cold
6/5/2009 5:12:08 AM
Boy am I glad my last post got swallowed by this excruciating interface. @jflrdl: I was about to mention that two posts went by since you're big reveal, and all you were able to do was call me a "homo" twice. But now a shot at my mom? Sonny boy, you're out in the open now. You've got to be more than a one trick pony. I'll be waiting out here in left field if you think you can hit something I can't field. You know, I thought you were going to actually be entertaining. Quite frankly you're overcompensating. You've "taken" me, you've "had" me, and now my mommy doesn't love me? Boo hoo. Sounds like somebody isn't getting nearly enough love, and I know I'm not the candidate. You should've headed for cover when you had the chance. Now you have to make do with what little mother nature gave you on top and bottom.
6/5/2009 4:40:59 AM
@Dougprime: You know , it still makes you kind of a chump. You defended Scott and now you have to thrash him. The point is you were had. Like the rest of you , thinking that Scott cared about this. You know what I think ? Not that you will listen or care. I think Scott has writers block on this strip and is ashamed to admit it. Hey! I understand !! No one is genius 100 percent of the time ( Except maybe me ) If you got block, cool dude, I’ll check back in a month or two and see how you are doing. But this hiding in a corner and finding your “happy” place won’t cut it. I think that you owe your public the decency of at least letting them know what’s going on…. Dude fess up, we won’t think less of you. Well maybe dougprime will but hey he’s just a whacko out in left field who wishes his mother paid more attention to him, if you get my drift, wink wink
6/5/2009 4:12:06 AM
@Dougprime: How dare you sir !! failcraft !!!!! pistols at dawn sir !!
6/5/2009 4:08:42 AM
@66rekrul: What would you know of a rabid gerbil ?? you use them ??or maybe you just like the feel of fur in your nether regions? he he he. Im still right though, friday is here and no word about anything. That speaks volumes.. dont you think ??
6/5/2009 4:03:34 AM
@jflrdl: I like you! You're cute, psychotic, and and as predictable as a rabid gerbil. You're going to be a LOT of amusement in my household :)
6/5/2009 3:59:30 AM
@Dougprime: Fool,, your the one who need help you got took plain and simple, You have a whole list of posts defending Scott and now your bashing him. you sir are the biggest homo of all ... a fan boy who has been jilted.....enjoy fan boy....
6/5/2009 3:37:57 AM
@jflrdl: Oh look, here's the "mini-mind" behind it all. Thankfully this just means we won't be hearing from "newb" anymore. Doesn't change that Scott hasn't posted or even peaked at the boards because he could have cleared this up in one post, and either didn't know or care. You, on the other hand, bright boy, could have just stayed quiet and no one would have ever known for sure, but since you were so intent in "having me" (an interesting choice of words based on the whole "homos" comment) you let the cat out of the bag and confirmed your place on the whole "constructive, flamer, troll, dick" scale of things. Points for carrying it out as long as you did, but d- for final execution. By the by, since its now obvious you have a preference for sock puppets, unless of course you are a completely incapable of coming out of the shadows to answer one question, I'd like to ask you something. Are you Failcraft? If so your grammer and punctuation have improved nicely. I'm also more than happy to have learned the truth. I did indeed have my doubts. You could have kept that going forever, and while its obvious your reveal was not intended to do me or anybody else any favor, you did all of us just that. Special props to Mr. Mighty, by the by. He called it just right.
6/5/2009 3:28:14 AM
You know, there are other cartoonists I follow who are worse about updating by far than Scott can be ( I'm looking at -YOU-, Straha of WTF ). But, you know what? Those people do their strips as a hobby. Scott has made a career out of it. And, to be frank, any boss in a "traditional" career would have fired him long ago.
6/5/2009 3:28:04 AM
6/5/2009 2:41:29 AM
Well you ding homos, Friday is supposed to be the big surprise according to Scott tweet. Let’s see if the “large” one breaks with tradition and updates or remove Ding!. Oh and to all you Scott fan boys ZARK OFF !!!!!
6/5/2009 2:29:14 AM
@Dougprime: You sir have been had. jolly well so. I hope you like to eat crow because you just got a mouth full of it. chew slow and enjoy.
6/5/2009 12:34:05 AM
@PinkyB: I tried to reply to you last night, but this furshugglin posting box ate all 2000 characters. I'll keep this one short. Look at my post on 04/01/09. So you are correct that this has been all said before, and probably been said better for that matter. The fact that you have nothing original to add to the conversation doesn't help. Tell me Scott is on the Rainbow Warrior defending the whales. Tell me he is defending the universe from alien space beagles. Since we are all aware that "Scott is not our bitch" and that argument has now been done to death (and you have not been around for the ride for the last TWO friggin months)save us the "let's ask how we can help Scott" fanboy brown nosing. We are helping Scott by keeping this forum alive. He owes us nothing, and while we are indeed paying nothing, we owe Scott nothing at the more than two month mark. You'll note that I have previously been the advocate of patience. More than two months later, no response from Scott other than sock puppet crap, no response from Crispy Gamer despite a request for info, and now a truly excruciating posting interface with no more than a "sorry we suck" I am now on empty when it comes to patience.
6/5/2009 12:30:50 AM
*Scott, in disguise as Kissybear*:"I know Ive been away from the comic for months..."
6/4/2009 8:52:15 PM
@PinkyB: I agree
6/4/2009 4:17:10 PM
We suck. Sorry.
6/4/2009 4:11:46 PM
What the heck Crispy Gamer? Fix the comment box!
6/4/2009 4:10:42 PM
Ok, as a correction, a friend of mine helped me do some searching, Scott is making "Twitter remarks about Ding!" they just happen to be @ replies to other people. Which for some reason, I never see. Regardless, we keep getting fed empty promises, let's see if this Ding! News actually shows up Friday... If any of us still check here anymore.
6/4/2009 4:10:06 PM
6/4/2009 3:50:52 PM
Ok that last post screwed up. I meant to make it as a reply to Newb.... I follow Scott's twitter for QUITE some time now. Scott has not once mentioned Ding! in his Twitter for months now. Not sure what Newb is up to, but he really should make sure if he is going to lie that one of us doesn't actually check his "sources".
6/4/2009 3:47:00 PM
@Azuth:
6/4/2009 3:17:29 PM
@Tyger42: Going to have to agree. I also have to agree with the twitter thing. Maybe if we get enough people to start spamming his twit-ter about Ding updates he'd get we're a tad upset...
6/4/2009 1:01:25 PM
@Newb: I'm done with you until you stop hiding behind the sock puppet.
6/4/2009 11:40:52 AM
If you die on Twitter, you die in real life.
6/4/2009 10:56:28 AM
@Newb: If I've given up on checking Ding on a regular basis why the hell would I want to follow Scott on Twitter? You can tell us all what his announcement is when it comes, odds are this will still be the comic up when that happens.
6/4/2009 8:45:26 AM
@Azuth: Frankly, Scott's gotten arrogant in his success and that's all there is to it. For all his badmouthing of syndicated cartoonists, at least they have the work ethic to usually stick to their schedule.
6/4/2009 1:02:53 AM
@PinkyB: We're not upset that there isn't a new comic, we're upset that Scott has told us repeatedly that he cares about the comic and will be updating it more...If he cared about the comic he'd do something about it. He can't even be bothered to make sure PVP updates on a regular basis, why we're surprised he neglects Ding! is beyond me.
6/3/2009 9:38:12 PM
@Imadethis2comment Like me
6/3/2009 8:32:15 PM
Per Twitter Scott plans on posting on Twitter there will be an announcement on Ding Friday.
6/3/2009 4:22:27 PM
This is a tired refrain, it's been used too many times. But how on earth do any of you feel like Scott actually owes you something?PVP is his moneymaker, and he's got a family to support. While it would be nice if Ding! updated more frequently, he's certainly not obligated to do so. It's a free comic on an open site that he decided to do on a whim because his PVP characters just happened to play WoW. This comic is supplementary to his other comic, not the primary one. If you want to read it go ahead, if you don't like how often he does or doesn't update, then by all means leave. But don't get on a soapbox and act like you're entitled to his work.You rip him up and down repeatedly on this message board, and if he indeed does read these posts it's no wonder he doesn't update more often. A lot of you could care less about anything but satisfying that greedy need for your daily amusement.Would I like to see updates more often? Sure!Am I irritated that there aren't more? It definitely sucksBut all I can do is watch the RSS feed or check the page every now and then to see if it's updated. And it only takes a few seconds. In an entire day I've wasted a few seconds of time...oh what a waste...I could've spent the time blinking...twice.In the end it costs nothing to be here. No money, no effort, and only minimal time. What does anyone have a right to complain about? If you really cared about Ding! you'd be asking Scott how you can help him be more effective at putting out a second comic regularly.
6/3/2009 3:24:27 PM
What I really like is scrolling down to the comment box, and reading that first hopeful comment.@abzilla: I think you broke the comic.just kidding.
6/3/2009 3:15:12 PM
@66rekrul: truly an inspired way to maintain your fanbase. Ignore them for months and hide behind a lame shill. @scottkurtz: The ball's in your court, you've been called out numerous times. You're not doing yourself any favors by making posts on Twitter no one reads and letting your c*ckpuppet talk for you. The mic is open, step up to it.
6/3/2009 2:38:05 PM
@Arras: He does come here. He just doesn't feel like telling us he does and uses a sock puppet instead.
6/3/2009 1:55:03 PM
@Newb: Newb, since you seem to enjoy schilling for Kurtz...why do you think he's so reluctant to come here and tell us there's 'big news' on the horizon? Why leave it to Twitter? Maybe some folks here use twitter, but there are probably quite a few who don't or who don't check it regularly. But, as you can see, the comments section here is quite active - if Scott were truly interested in keeping the Ding! fans interested, don't you think it'd be smart for him to come here? Using Twitter to announce Ding news would indicate to me he's lost all interest in this strip. If he truly cared, he'd make an appearance as he's done before and reassure his readers that he's hasn't forgotten about us. How he'd sell that, I don't know...contempt for him is quite high.
6/3/2009 12:21:07 PM
"Big Ding News?" *yawn*Is he going to promise about how much he loves Ding and how he is going to be committed to providing regular updates... again? Is he going to pass off the artwork to another artist... again? Is he going to submit to the community for story ideas... again?The only "big Ding news" that should gratify people is a weekly strip. (I say weekly because I do not think he would be able to commit to anything more. My expectations are low.) And then the FOLLOW THROUGH to actually DO it regularly.I sincerely dislike being so cynical, but between bringing Kissybear back (reverting to the old ways of writing the strip) combined with 2+ months without an update and being told once again "its important for me to be active on this strip" only to be disappointed once more... it has left me jaded! I have no faith in Kurtz to produce Ding any more. No news + no updates = no interest.IMO, this strip needs to earn its following back. Make up for broken promises, and be consistent with what is being offered; THEN release some merchandise and start paying the bills with this strip that so many people "could" love!As it is, Ding is dead. Pack it up people. Go home.
6/3/2009 12:04:50 PM
@RedwoodElf: It's probably trying to tell us to quit commenting. This is possibly the longest string of comments underneath a comic ever.
6/3/2009 9:22:42 AM
@Newb: You realise, of course, that "Big Ding News" could mean he's dumping it and we'll never see another one again? We recently had "Big GM News" after all.... What's with the text entry window for this page? it takes like 2 minutes to update when I type!
6/3/2009 9:20:24 AM
Not enought comments in this bitch. Lets post about how a proffesional aritst doesn't update a niche side project enough until the post count reaches the sun.
6/3/2009 8:17:18 AM
No rush - I'm sure we can squeeze another month of "community building" out of this strip.
6/3/2009 8:06:14 AM
Wow, there has been a lot of activity in this forum in the past few days. Good news for all you Ding fans-fresh from Scott's Twitter (and when I say fresh I mean 7 hours old but I was asleep when this was posted as I'm sure he's alseep now) "Big Ding news soon. Just give me a little bit longer to prep." Just a little more patience and we Ding fans will be rewarded. Squeeeeeee!
6/3/2009 7:18:19 AM
@Azuth: Hmm, I would have to check that, but I've heard that if it's taken off your blog you have NO legal recourse against the offender if the blog is all the legal claim you have.
6/3/2009 6:13:59 AM
@66rekrul: A blog with a person's byline is still a published work...
6/3/2009 1:40:22 AM
@themote: Oh yes, and I was under the impression that was a blog, not a published work, I could be wrong.
6/3/2009 1:39:13 AM
@themote: tell you what, post the two quotes so I can see what you're talking about.
6/3/2009 12:54:57 AM
@66rekrul: Once again you miss the point. He wasn't using a supporting argument. In no way did he reference any other person in his first post. He simply ripped a quote straight from Neil Gaiman's blog post and made it seem as though he'd birthed it straight from his own loins, mentally speaking. In his second post because he really had no follow up to his first he just decided to link his source so people would stop challenging him. You'll notice his second post lacks something, like follow up. And frankly, I don't give a good god damned where plagiarism happens, it is every artist's right, hell every free minded individual's right not to have their published works raped and pillaged by the masses. I don't care if what neil gaiman said was funny. I don't care if it was clever. What I care about is that it was NOT Teh Uberness' to claim as his own. And by the way, a supporting argument has to support, not replace, your own. Just an FYI on a technical fault in your reasoning there.
6/2/2009 9:39:09 PM
@Imadethis2comment: Whoa, freaky. Maybe if enough people have the dream, it will come true. But probably not...WTB NEW COMICS!
6/2/2009 6:09:07 PM
@themote: OHH!! I see, sorry, I didn't realize this was all about someone actually being intelligent and trying to find supporting statements to help their own position...seems to me that almost EVERYONE who has a position uses supporting arguments so that they are not "taking the high ground" all on their own... Why? Because being the lone defender is suicide!! I may not support the statement, but ripping someone down because they are using arguments to support their own is nothing less then vindictive. You may as well tell Einstein he's a complete moron for using other people's theories when he made the connection of relativity!!
6/2/2009 2:08:57 PM
@mrmighty: Yeah...heh heh...up to 455 posts now (including this one...)
6/2/2009 1:14:25 PM
I guess this is what they mean by user-generated content? Good work, everyone!
6/2/2009 1:13:05 PM
Yay for the two-month anniversary! ...cough
6/2/2009 11:55:58 AM
@Bean03: Wow, I actually had the same dream.
6/2/2009 11:31:41 AM
I had a dream that Scott came and posted a big apology and 5 new comics to try and catch up what he missed. Then I woke up and found the same old BS... :-(
6/2/2009 8:42:19 AM
@66rekrul: Oh I agree wholeheartedly that this is not a classroom. Normally I'd give exactly two shits about what teh uberness said. It's the fact he claimed to be high and mighty championing a noble cause but using someone else's thoughts to do it is what ticked me off. I'm fine if you claim the high ground. Just don't stand on the shoulders of people smarter and better than you and claim you got there on your own. And Dougprime, I agree with you as well. It is the definition of insanity to repeat the same action again and again expecting different results. And yet here we are. But you're also right in that most of us are now here to argue, if anything, and I think if we actually see a comic it will be like the reaction a group of nerds has when a pretty girl walks into their favourite store: stunned silence.
6/2/2009 3:34:18 AM
@66rekrul: left out one crucial piece of information. the same ball at the same spot, same surface, etc.
6/2/2009 3:20:36 AM
@VassilyJung: The counter to this is that scientific theory does not EXPECT a different outcome, it merely changes the variables to ensure that the expected outcome won't change if the theory is correct. Scientific theory will very rarely throw the same ball against the same wall with the same velocity over and over again to the exclusion of all else. The only thing that proves is that the laws of physics haven't changed. Insanity is throwing the same ball at the same surface with the same velocity and wondering why on earth it always hits you on the head when you sit in the same place!
6/2/2009 2:37:23 AM
@Tucker12456: the new layout does suck...
6/2/2009 2:35:58 AM
@Dougprime: that same definition of insanity also applies to the scientific method. Once is not an event, predictable repetition is scientific probability or theory. Once properly encapsulated with understanding it becomes law. not insanity. Or maybe that's the problem =]
6/2/2009 1:52:21 AM
@themote: The definition of insanity is repeating the same action over and over again and expecting a different result. Further, thanks to the wonders of modern devices like the telephone you could call said "cafeteria" and verify they indeed have no food and therefore reduce the waste of your expenditure of time. That would be setting an rss reminder for this strip. No, if you are going to submit to the concept of your paying with your time, then you must be responsible for whether you are wasting it or not. Besides, everybody knows that time is a confidence trick invented by the swiss to sell cuckoo clocks. Time may also be a finite resource but since no one knows exactly how much time they have it is therefore of indeterminate value. It's like paying in a currency that's value shifts from nanosecond to nanosecond. Since no sane person would submit to such a transaction,I would submit you can't buy anything with it. No, you are indeed being compensated for your time. You are here to argue, just like everyone else. Crispy gamer provides you a forum for outlet of whatever opinions you wish to shout, and they in turn get something from the deal, otherwise they wouldn't provide the outlet. It may not have started out that way, but yet here we are.
6/1/2009 11:05:02 PM
6/1/2009 9:20:44 PM
@themote: In case you missed this vital little point...this is a message board not a classroom. People are allowed to make mistakes like forgetting to post their source and then say "oops, sorry, forgot to post this before" It's not an accredited institution where such arbitrary rules apply. We are allowed to be a little lenient because we are not responisible for such high minded ideals such as thesis and the like. Don't be so anal.
6/1/2009 8:59:54 PM
I just read the first comment again."not a bad start for a good story, lets hope it goes somewhere =)"Ahaha. Also, the new layout sucks. >.>
6/1/2009 8:51:02 PM
@66rekrul: Sorry it took me so long to reply. In process of moving so had power shut off for a few days. In respect to Teh Uberness, he made absolutely no reference to his sources in the first post he made. I was originally not going to call him on it given if he'd had an original thought there is every likelihood said thought may have mirrored Neil Gaiman's on the issue. However, he then proceeded in his second post to quote his sources, and I'm sorry, but you can't retroactively do that. It's like publishing your thesis and then going to your advisor and saying, "oh, whoops, I forgot to include these sources. My bad." Uh uh. Doesn't fly. And in respect to the relative value of time, that was my entire point. Time has a value, but ultimately what value is up to the individual to determine. But every second we spend here is a resource we are paying to this website, a resource we could be spending on other websites, drinking a beer, clipping our toenails or reading a book. It's a finite resource as well, so when we spend it here rather than somewhere else in the expectation we will be issued new product then there should at least be some reasonable possibility that we will get what we expect. You don't go to the cafeteria every day and get told there's no food that day and say "at least I didn't pay anything." You went to the cafeteria, where you had every reason to believe there would be food. there was no food. You don't go back the next day, and the next, and the next, and still get no food and then continue using the same cafeteria. You choose a different one that actually has food, regardless of whether or not you paid any money.
6/1/2009 6:24:32 PM
@mmclennan: NO!! We have to keep it on life support so that we may weep and moan about how unfair it is for something so young to die even if there is no chance of it ever being revived, just for our own guilty consciences!!
6/1/2009 5:19:25 PM
@mmclennan: The comic may be dead, but the comments are alive and kicking! ^_^
6/1/2009 1:09:12 PM
okay, come on guys. This comic has not been updated in 2 months. Please, I am on my hands and knees here, just let it die.
6/1/2009 12:15:19 PM
@pegarm: They grow up so fast!
6/1/2009 7:12:40 AM
The new Crispy. A fresh new look on the same old crap. ^_^
6/1/2009 7:01:48 AM
@Becket_TheBest: Oh why not, I love proving people wrong! See, I have been sitting here superanalyzing the nascent neostructure of the psches of everyone here and determined that the best way to get all the fun comments I would like is to allow Xenoth and the newb trollers to stir things up again. Quite the work of art if I do say so myself, I couldn't have planned it any better, so glad my little manipulations worked out so well :)
6/1/2009 6:59:33 AM
last time I tried to leave a comment the button wouldn't clickie...so...if you see this, it works!
6/1/2009 2:26:28 AM
@Becket_TheBest: You can try as hard as you want, I am NOT giving you spank bank material to disprove your guy theory.
6/1/2009 1:00:19 AM
Happy two month anniversary!
6/1/2009 12:24:04 AM
@pookiej: WoW has a dwindling player base?Are you freaking A serious? Do you not watch TV? Do you only repeat things other people process through you?I mean you haven't even throw out your own argument, you just posted a link to someone else's, which i'm 99% sure you got from someone ELSE posting that link (i.e. LICD).I mean, 66rekrul is enjoyable to read now that he doesn't go on about himself. I like his posts alot more now. Dougprime always dishes out good stuff. Xenoth is as usual playing by his own rules. And the trolls are great for keeping this comment comic going. But you pookie. I don't even know what attempts to fester and linger in your skull aside from a library of other's ideas. You don't even put them in your own words. And you know nothing about WoW. And you know what's funny? If you try to say "oh duh i know WoW i play it" you're just admitting that the game IS STILL ENGAGING ENOUGH TO KEEP PEOPLE WHO TRASH TALK IT PLAYING!Man you're dumb.-Betty the freaking sweet.
5/31/2009 7:12:29 PM
@pookiej: Well noone else has said it yet, so it looks like I must. You can't compare the mediums with photography because photography requires a bit more setup and'or luck to prodiuce a finished product. AND, you are still able to produce photographs a HELL of a lot faster then with a novel. And yes, writer's block is applicable...when a novelist has writer's block it delays the entire book and if they have multiple bouts it can be quite some time before the book materializes. When a comic writer has writer's block it holds up one strip. Multiple bouts don't mean the whole comic gets delayed longer, just that the particular strip you're working on does. I don't know many writers who have one bout of writer's block continue for 2 to 3 months.
5/31/2009 4:26:27 AM
Xenoth "Please remember to be polite" Heh, yeah, that is not gonna happen. So best to vent here and not mail. People may end up feeling threatened. ;)
5/30/2009 2:35:16 PM
@pookiej: ignoring, of course, the repeated "I'm updating soon! don't worry" messages.
5/30/2009 2:16:43 PM
@pookiej: Dude, as a photographer (I guess a fellow Artist who gets paid for the content he produces) would you recommend another photographer who misses deadlines on a continuing basis? Again, the main point of contention is track record. Neil Gaiman, if you take his statements at face value, missed one deadline in twenty-five years. Scott, on the other hand, has missed like twenty five deadlines in a year to be completely snarky about it. Also the whole novel vs. web-comic context sort of shows the over-all level of difficulty we're dealing with. I'm assuming Scott's failure to post has not a thing to do with writer's block or something similarly artsey-fartsey, but merely boils down to him having to many irons in the fire, and this is the project he considers least important. That may of course be a perfectly reasonable position to take, but if so we, his "viewing" public, should be made aware so we can move on to other pursuits. Instead, we get to read crap from "sock-puppets" or "meat-puppets" or whatever you want to call them, while the trolls run rampant. That's amusing in itself, but there's really on one reason I'm coming here, and that's the strips. Facing that fact is something Crispy Gamer needs to deal with, as the overall writing of the other features are pretty sub-par to say the least. If Aaron Williams drops his strip as well, I'd probably jet. Point: The artistic phrase we should be looking at is "The Show must Go On" not "so-and-so is to busy right now and doesn't want to be anybody's bitch". If you want to be a writer then go ahead and write. Stand and deliver.
5/30/2009 1:19:05 PM
If anyone wants to state their opinion right to the source (because nobody cares what is in the comments section. Seriously, we might as well be yelling at a brick wall) then i suggest we email either crispy gamer or Scott himself. The link for crispy gamer is at the bottom of the page, and the only way i found of emailing scott is through the pvp emailPlease remember to be polite
5/30/2009 1:03:59 PM
"He himself stopped a book midstream due to a strong bout of block. Is it not reasonable that Scott could do the same?"Did he do it with every book? And every paragraph of each book? No? I didn't think so.
5/30/2009 8:33:13 AM
Doesn't anyone here realize there's an RSS feed?
5/30/2009 8:32:43 AM
@Dougprime & 66rekrulGaiman's position is totally applicable. If you read his views of a lack of inspiration or desire to write a piece anymore. He himself stopped a book midstream due to a strong bout of block. Is it not reasonable that Scott could do the same?Besides, look at WOW itself, the game is fast fading in its own content and player base. Yes there was a recent expansion, but that too was quickly placed on "farm status" by players. The content and substance well has run dry, boring and repetitive.I believe that Scott that this may have abandoned the comic - left it on Crispygamers doorstep, rang the bell and ran. While I can't agree with method, I empathize with the motivation and results. Now I would just hope that together Scott and Crispygamer would come out and be admit the obvious - the comic has ended.And just so you know - art is art. Regardless of the content novel, painting, photography or comic. Yes, once you reach a certain level of skill you are expected to perform; but life isn't that simple. To borrow Neil's phrase, "we artists are not our audience's bitch." Following your example about format versus output. As a photographer, I should be able to churn out several shows worth of material in a month - it just ain't that simple.
5/30/2009 6:29:52 AM
@I_pwn_mongbats: but wouldn't it be RTYIAB?and seriously, video games are a better way to vent :] yay fighter games :D
5/30/2009 6:22:43 AM
I still think racking up the dead dog thing as an excuse for this comic being late is funny tbh. Generally because of the irony that it has nothing to do with Kurtz being a slacker. So yeah, me being bored, not giving a fuck about much and being annoyed with the lack of updates because I actually DO like this comic has lead to the fact that posting non-humorous remarks about the dead dog and the lack of updates because of it is a good way to vent my frustration about lack of updates in general. But hey, that is probably just me. As for the dead dog humor haters, scroo joo I do what I want! Nya! (I would post a *sticks out tongue* emote thingy but yeah, let's not, may be too nerdy, yet I may actually have already betrayed myself -the nerdy factor that is- by startuing about this subject in the first place) Ta ta, rant to you in a bit. (or RYTIAB for short) historic fact for the future: this is where the RYTIAB phrase started, in 2010 people all over the world will have this phrase printed on a t-shirt because retro slogan shirts are coming back and this is the new hip expression. There, done typing.
5/30/2009 12:34:31 AM
@pookiej: Okay, Just to reiterate for anyone to lazy to scroll down, the example presented lays out a thoughtful argument regarding a NOVEL. There is enough of a difference between a novel and a serialized form of comic art to make an argument that applies to one a little less of a fit for the other. The very design of the webcomic medium automatically implies a shorter duration between updates because you are presenting the story in much smaller chunks then a novel. Therefore until a suitable comparison can be found, I would like to know what makes the essay on entitlement an appropriate discussion for a medium that has such a different inherent expectation by virtue of it's format?
5/29/2009 10:17:53 PM
@pookiej: Okay, I read the link. Neil Gaiman, another artist, said "so and so is not your bitch." Why is it that anytime a fan wants to see something new from their favorite artist, and for whatever reason that artist is unable to produce, they seem to come up with that tired refrain of "I'm not your bitch." I understand a few people who have posted here have pretty close to acted that way but making a comparison between Scott Kurtz and Neil Gaiman (who claims has missed one deadline in twenty five years and that related to his father passing away)is false on its basis. You'll note Crispy Gamer advertises that Ding is available on this website, but doesn't say "hey we have Ding but Scott hasn't posted in like two months" or perhaps "Ding, drawn infrequently by Scott Kurts". Aaron Williams of Nodwick and PS238 fame, posts Backward Compatible every monday, weds. and friday and his own strip on his own website once a week. There is a given that life happens. Scott's life happens and so does mine. As far as I'm concerned if he never posts again, I'll be disappointed but it's his choice since I'm not paying him. However it is not unreasonable for people who come to Crispy Gamer while they actively post an advertisement involving Scott and his artwork to expect to see a new strip from time to time. Playing the "Scott isn't your bitch" card isn't reasonable or justified when you look at his past posting history. If anything, based on the whole "total hits on the website" argument, if that is indeed the model being used, Crispy Gamer can present to the advertisers marketing information showing that they are successful even though most of us are now showing up just to gnaw on each other (which has entertainment value of its own, I'll admit). So Neil Gaiman is untitled to his opinion (and given his track record I'll defer to it in regard to his own performance). That doesn't apply here.
5/29/2009 5:15:10 PM
@pookiej: I believe the term is "day late, dollar short" Please check the previous comments and respond accordingly, I am not wasting anymore breath on people who ignore the issue that has yet to be addressed regarding that article (or any similar to it)
5/29/2009 5:07:49 PM
now let the flaming begin...
5/29/2009 5:07:19 PM
I found this on Neil Giaman's blog: http://journal.neilgaiman.com/2009/05/entitlement-issues.html It seems to be quite fitting.
5/29/2009 1:23:05 PM
http://tinyurl.com/6ynrxj
5/29/2009 1:16:41 PM
I am the Law.
5/29/2009 1:02:00 PM
@Dougprime: Thanks for the primer - I have to admit that I haven't spent a lot of time following the comments. Based on what you said, I think I'll just work on the assumption that Newb is a Strawman Sockpuppet, designed to make Kurtz look bad, as described in that wikipedia article 66rekru linked.In any case, I don't care. I just check every so often, and if there's a comic, great. If not, I somehow make it through my day anyway. I'm not holding my breath on any announcement or new comics.
5/29/2009 12:02:21 PM
@Dougprime: I'm sure someone else would've seen the Newb/Scott connection but it's so satisfying to be the first one to have pointed it out. ^_^
5/29/2009 9:39:10 AM
Coming up on the two-month anniversary!
5/29/2009 6:37:15 AM
@mrmighty: Sorry...previous post should have ended "his latest book".
5/29/2009 6:32:52 AM
@mrmighty: Dude, the question is a little deeper than that. The running theory for a while is that Newb is Scott, based on a post Newb ran a couple of months ago, quote: Scott gets way more hits on this site from people looking for the strip than he would if he actually updated on a regular schedule. Why do twice the work for half the hits when you are receiving the hits anyway. He will update tomorrow, though. It was a long weekend at the convention and I'm worn out. So either Newb is Scott, or Newb seriously has some seguay issues in regard to keeping a train of thought, specifically becoming a born again Kurtzian when the previous strip he looked like he was alternatively smacking Scott for not posting because he was getting a huge number of hits for not updating, then saying the strip will update tomorrow, which it didn't, but how the hell would he know that if he wasn't actually posting the strip himself. Then of course the whole convention comment (either a way out of left field reference that had no bearing on anything written previously, or Scott admiting "hey I'm tired but I'll have the strip up tomorrow". Point being if Scott is Newb, he's really doing himself a disservice with the over the top shilling and subterfuge. If Newb isn't Scott, he's really doing Scott some serious credibility damage with all the lame fanboy stuff. Scott could take a "it's ready when it's ready" attitude like some of the game companies we're used to, and I would be fine with that approach since I really like his stuff. However, the whole Newb/Scott thing smacks of deception at worst, and at best it has the appearance of evil. Further, I can see both sides of the issue. Life happens. deadlines get missed. If Scott's not posting regularly, he has his reasons. However, his fan base on this strip has a right to feel slighted when he posts on regular site on a steady basis and all we hear from here is his perceived alter ego newb trying to sell us hi
5/28/2009 7:02:26 PM
@HunterZ0: geez, reminds me of the horrible time-travel conundrum D:
5/28/2009 6:21:39 PM
@66rekrul: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_sock_puppetFound a wiki on it.
5/28/2009 2:27:05 PM
@Lurker66: Hmmm, heard about a thing called sock puppeting...I wonder if anyone has a link for it so we can compare RE: Newb.
5/28/2009 2:23:43 PM
@Xenoth: Wait. There's a comic here?
5/28/2009 2:12:26 PM
I wonder if any of us are still enthusiastic after such a long wait. Not complaining, but just seeing a lot more excitement in the comments directed at each other rather than in the comic itself.
5/28/2009 11:20:59 AM
I don't think Newb can or is making promises on behalf of Kurtz, but instead is simply relaying information he read on twitter. I suspect the extra hype stems from his own enthusiasn.
5/28/2009 10:19:35 AM
@TouringBubble: Indeed! I'll be disappointed if it doesn't materialize because it's proof that Newb is an official shill for Kurtz.Or maybe no announcement is proof because it would be consistent with his inability to deliver on promises. Mindbending...
5/28/2009 9:08:12 AM
So ... about that update that "Newb" promised this week ...
5/28/2009 5:09:34 AM
@Historyhawk: Dude, when exactly did I say anything about Scott's artwork, other than I actually enjoy both his artwork and his writing on pvp? Methinks you're confusing me with somebody else?
5/28/2009 4:58:07 AM
@pinchythecrab: Rivers! Rivers of arguing and comments!It's the only way!
5/28/2009 4:57:40 AM
@pinchythecrab: You can only appease them with more comments!
5/28/2009 4:56:39 AM
More comments! The Argument Gods need tribute!MORE COMMENTS!
5/28/2009 3:14:48 AM
@Historyhawk: do you make it a habit to go off on supposed claims that you think were made instead of addressing the clearly stated claim...namely the one that was brought up by Xenoth. the expectation is NOT of regular updates, it is of setting expectations (stating that a new Ding is forthcoming) and never following through. For once you may just want to address the ACTUAL statements and not the ones that the voices keep whispering to you.
5/28/2009 3:11:19 AM
@themote: As the first statement you chose to make was a libelous statement, allow me to defend the accused. you can NOT "plagiarize" someone if you GIVE THEM FULL CREDIT!! The link was labeled very nicely and no claim was ever made to indicate the poster as the author. If anyone is guilty of anything it is you for intentionally misrepresenting someone in a written medium...not the exact definition of Libel, but the spirit is there, so try to watch the glass when you throw that stone.
5/28/2009 2:40:46 AM
@themote: how exactly does it cost you time? you click on the link or type in the url, ignore the annoying ad then look. oh, i guess he hasnt updated instead of using my time to do something i want to do minus the 10 seconds - 1 minute it took you to get here (btw what is anything significant and relevant that you could of done in that time?) im going to spend 15 minutes composing an article on how we are "paying" for this comic. Your argument is not valid!
5/28/2009 2:36:17 AM
@Dougprime: first, I agree with you about the advertisement it is annoying.Now on to the matter at hand...and I have been thinking this sometime without the support of Neil Gaiman, who does have some excellent points by the way. Scott said "Hey, I have some extra time to write another comic while im not writing PvP" All of a sudden his life gets more complicate or busy in some way or maybe he just doesnt enjoy writing Ding! anymore. he never made an obligation to update regularly and it isn't your comic to say "Scott go write/draw more ding!" you arent his boss as you in no way pay him or help him with the comic therefore u cant say this is effecting you in anywayAnother point that has come into conversation. his art work. You are in no position to judge his artwork. you probably couldnt do better yourself. Art work is also a form of expression which means not everybody sees eye to eye on whats good and whats not. The artwork here isn't meant to be realistic...thats not Scotts style he tends to draw loose-looking with a sort of laidback art style. if u dont like it u dont HAVE to read it and he never promised you he was going to update. if you keep checking here to find out if he posted and end up trolling then why do u check anymore? it makes u less liked by the people who are actually commenting on the comic and its not like ur doing much...
5/28/2009 2:06:45 AM
@themote: Before going any further, is anybody else getting annoyed about the pop-up indicating that this site is getting "crispier" or whatever? In any event, I'm not sure how you successfully defend a relative value. You claim your paying with your time. If I log on to crispy gamer to check out whether or not Scott has updated (which at this point has no longer become a deciding factor for me) and instead post to argue with someone or present some bit of trivia, and I'm not paying CASH, how can I say I've paid for anything? To suggest that since I decied to show up, and an advertiser that I have no interest in is blinking some advertisement next to the non-existent new cartoon on this site, that I have somehow paid for the privlege of being here seems false to me, especially if the advertiser is advertising a product that I have zero interest in (case in point, the US Air force ad that seems to be continually running here). Even then, if the advertisement does incline someone to purchase a product, that money goes to the advertiser and then to crispy gamer for the service sold ( a cash exchange mind you). Any agreement is between Crispy Gamer and the Advertiser, just as Scott Likely has some agreement with Crispy Gamer, not the advertiser directly. Every person who logs on here has no agreement whatsoever between crispy gamer or Scott in regard to anything since its a free website. I didn't read the Neil Gaiman website,so I can't argue the specifics that you are debating with teh, however I could argue that a book, being a tangible comodity could be resold at a profit without the author getting any royalty (ie, for example a comic book could be purchased and resold as a collectable for a profit that the author does not gain in, but the value is still a relative figure, only defendable by the purchaser and the purchasee). The point I'm making is that your time only has value only because you say it has value. Doesn't make it so.
5/28/2009 1:11:44 AM
@Imadethis2comment: I guess it depends on what you get out of the four sentences.
5/28/2009 12:30:39 AM
Is it bad that I never read post that are more than about... 4 sentences?
5/27/2009 10:48:31 PM
Yeah. And bedbugs are jerks too
5/27/2009 10:01:13 PM
@Teh_Uberness: I want to be very clear. You are not defending an unpopular position. You are plagiarising -and I refer to the strictest sense of the word; stealing another's words or thoughts and presenting them as your own- Neil Gaiman on the subject to defend a position that you have decided is unpopular. I can guarantee you there are certainly a large number of people who frequent this site who agree completely with Neil Gaiman's viewpoint. Further, I'd bet dollars to donuts that you were only directed to Neil Gaiman's website which you then proceeded to stripmine for material that wasn't yours by Sohmer of Least I Could Do, another excellent webcomic, because I know that's how I had the opportunity to read Gaiman's post on the matter. I would however posit that in this circumstance the view presented by Neil Gaiman is inapplicable. This is not a novel. This website exists in no small part because of advertiser contributions which in turn are viewed by our presence here. We primarily visit this website because we have our expectations set that we will be presented with new material to enjoy, and we pay for that material. How? With our time. I can pretty much guarantee Scott gets paid real money because we visit this site, and he gets paid EVERY time we visit this site, and while the intrinsic value to us as individuals of our time will vary from person to person it absolutely DOES have value. It is up to each person to determine how much their time is worth and how much they will waste on a product that is not being delivered. A book is purchased once, royalties paid on it once, no matter how many times you read that same book. A website's advertisers pay for EVERY hit, and each hit costs YOU time. Personally, I will continue checking this website, because I'm willing to waste 30 seconds of my time a day just in case. But eventually, with no new product, I may just give up, and this website will have lost a paying customer.
5/27/2009 9:44:01 PM
@Teh_Uberness:
5/27/2009 8:44:14 PM
@Teh_Uberness: This has been brought up already and never actually defended after I brought up a concern with it's validity. Before you decide to reanimate this, please be so kind as to address the previous issues that have been brought up about it's relevance.
5/27/2009 3:46:32 PM
@Teh_Uberness: You misspelled "The"
5/27/2009 12:40:57 PM
I hate to post again, but I made this account specifically to defend an unpopular position and will continue to do so.http://journal.neilgaiman.com/2009/05/entitlement-issues.html
5/27/2009 11:53:37 AM
All I need in the way of amends is some updates.Unless Scott's thinking of sending out Artist Editions of Awesomology. One can dream, right?
5/27/2009 6:42:43 AM
@jflrdl1: Well I guess we know where you fall on the whole constructive, flamer, troll, dick scale. Nobody needs to have to hear about somebody's dead pet over and over and over again because some twit with a juvenile mind thinks it's funny to keep poking the subject. Five year old's that find a dead cat on the road tend to treat an animal with more respect than a few of the bozo's who post on this site. And since I was well aware I was taking a chance with the original post to I_pwn_mongbats that some other goof with low empathy might find it funny to start "beating a dead dog" with a stick, I'm going to drop it here, as I have no intent of addressing every other random idiot who thinks a man's dead dog is a reason to try for a funny.
5/27/2009 5:30:20 AM
*sigh* Two months IS a long time to pine for a dog, although my wife blubbered for a week over a scrawny cat once. You see folks, the wonderful thing about you is that you’re ALMOST totally stupid, but this is due to the fact than you all have a small piece of brain lodged in your skulls. Once we get rid of that you’ll be fine!!
5/27/2009 2:17:10 AM
@Dougprime: Agreed on the dog topic. The moment PVP started posting again there was no need to even bring it up.
5/27/2009 1:19:28 AM
@I_pwn_mongbats: Dude, lay off the dog already. None of the dog comments were funny in the begining, and they've picked up no humor as time has past. There's being constructive, a flamer, a troll and finally there's being a dick. Your call on where you fall on that scale, but I'd be both relieved and impressed if I never saw this topic again.
5/27/2009 1:03:02 AM
@Teh_Uberness: While I agree with your point that Scott is under no obligation to continue to provide his artwork, especially for free, I think an expectation of gratitude for a lack of performance is excessive on your part. It smacks of fanaticism. I enjoy his artwork and writing, and love his pvp strip especially. He updates that frequently because it is, after all, his bread and butter. However, as far as his fans on this strip are concerned, he hasn't really been following through. Further, the speculation that Scott is actually posting as "Newb" and attempting to sell the idea of buying his pvp anthology in attempt to convince his ding fans to buy so he would, in turn, post more here, is seriously undermining the goodwill he establishes by posting here in the first place, which is a shame. Beside's being poor marketing, it appears as an ethical conflict. Now if he posted as himself, saying "hey guys, I've been busy, but I've got a deal for you, buy so many....etc, etc, etc" I would just call that an attempt at a business deal. Of course, if Newb has no actual relationship to Scott, other than being a fan so intensely that a restraining order might make sense, I would suggest to him that he is doing more damage to Scott by posting the way he has than any number of trolls working in concert. So teh_uberness, you're entitled to your opinion. Mine is that you have no basis for suggesting anyone be grateful to anyone for doing anything. A gift is because you want to, and while its good manners, not even a thank you in return is required. To expect a person to be grateful for a gift means it wasn't really a gift. And quite frankly, Ding (not withstanding any arrangements that Scott has with Crispy Gamer) is supposedly a gift. Now if any of us start paying for this service (ie if Crispy Gamer goes to subscription) I'd expect to see a regular feature posted with some sort of professional schedule in mind.
5/26/2009 9:04:27 PM
@Arras: i think 371. or I'm guessing that's why the post was there lolI've pretty much given up on supporting or complaining (unless necessary of course :3 ) but somehow this commenting section has become a nifty little community loving monty python and suggesting more comics =DFeelin da love, mon? xD
5/26/2009 7:39:59 PM
@Chaosinfused: Only if they say something different. ^_^
5/26/2009 4:43:58 PM
@Arras: do duplicate posts count for the number?
5/26/2009 4:05:14 PM
encroaching on two full months without an update or so much as a peep and twitter/fan club crap doesn't count. I'm pretty sure he still knows where this website is, he can schlep his chunky, gaseous ass over here and post something. How many comments are we up to, by the way? My guess is in the high 300s
5/26/2009 3:52:59 PM
Sorry for saying this, but the impression i am getting is that you are Scott's b*&ch. He is a grown man who does not need strange fanatical fans running to his defense and trying to alienate his audience. And i find your argument flawed. I believe that it is more likely that your webcomic artists were being flamed because they up and left without telling their audience, not the other way around. And your defense that we should be grateful that he is giving us free entertainment is also flawed. We would not be complaining if he was. And the entire basis of our complaints is not that he is not updating, but that he repeatedly promised to start updating and then decided not to, thus jerking around his audiences hope and anticipation. I actually do consider this a very valid reason for flaming in that it is the only way we can really express our disappointment. Now that i have countered all your inflammatory remarks (of the same type you were criticizing us for using) perhaps you will rethink your position.(This sentence is so contradictory that i find it pitiful and laughable at the same time)"Just be grateful that there are people like Scott Kurtz that provide us with free entertainment, insteed of complaining when they don't."
5/26/2009 1:38:28 PM
EVERYBODY READ THIS BEFORE POSTING!!It may surprise some of you to hear this, but it needs to be said.**Scott Kurtz is not your bitch!**He is in no way obligated to do things just because you want him to! I have seen some many great webcomic artists just up and quit because of flamers and trolls like all of you. So go outside, read a book, paint something, but whatever you do, stop harassing artists for not updating their webcomics! Just be grateful that there are people like Scott Kurtz that provide us with free entertainment, insteed of complaining when they don't.
5/26/2009 11:57:29 AM
371...
5/26/2009 10:56:25 AM
Just signed up to say that the obvious shilling that Newb is doing is even more unprofessional than the lack of updates. This webcomic has turned into a joke, and I only check back now to get a laugh from reading the latest trolls, shills, and other antics in the comments.
5/26/2009 10:33:56 AM
Just wondering, any chance Kurtz has broken the record for longest stretch in the "I am not updating because my dog is dead"-excuse category? If so then great, kudos to him, perhaps he can get back to updating. Oh and yes, I have read the posts about him being busy an all, but hey, that's what he gets for creating a good and funny comic. Victim of his own success and the trolls it brings with it (like me) eh?
5/26/2009 8:19:39 AM
@Lurker66: We are the Eggmen!!
5/26/2009 8:19:07 AM
I am the walrus.
5/26/2009 7:42:41 AM
I am alfa-omega!
5/26/2009 2:46:48 AM
I am G-Prime!
5/26/2009 1:35:37 AM
No, I'm Spartacus. Also, I am your father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate.
5/25/2009 10:47:40 PM
I am Spartacus
5/25/2009 10:46:06 PM
@Newb: I'm Scott.
5/25/2009 1:46:54 PM
The only wow comics i have found worthwhile are:http://www.darklegacycomics.com/189.htmlhttp://www.lfgcomic.com/page/255And also this one even though i am rather annoyed that the creator ended it without warning, It is still worth reading:http://messycow.com/manga.php?cid=1
5/25/2009 1:42:31 PM
...Except it is not a wow based comic. It just had a single strip that made a mild reference to a generic mmorpg. And there are so few strips that i read them all in about 10 minutes and the comic was started last year, indicating a less than spectacular update rate
5/25/2009 8:01:12 AM
Folks, I got tired of waiting for updates on DING! so I started looking around for more WOW based comics and found this: http://www.divineintrospection.com/2009/05/22/mmpog/ Definatley worth a look, although I think the guy that writes it is a Brit. Not sure if that's a plus or a minus.
5/25/2009 6:51:32 AM
@Xenoth: I have to agree. Maybe if Newb er Scott showed us he has the ability to get work done in a timely fashion I'd be willing to shell out.He has to draw at most six comics a week. What's he doing over the weekend that he couldn't get Monday's PVP strip ready to go up at midnight (when just about every other comic artist updates)?
5/24/2009 11:27:12 PM
No offense, but i would not put forward money on the promise of something that has disappointed me so many times in the past. And i am one of many who put forth money from his own pocket to help save palladium games
5/24/2009 10:37:44 PM
@Newb: Scott, you're doing the worst job of hiding who you are while patting your own back and plugging your sh*t.Please stop and just admit who the smeg you are.
5/24/2009 8:47:29 PM
@Newb: Look honey, we know you are Scott, but on the off chance you aren't it's obvious he watches Twitter not this thread, so post this there.
5/24/2009 8:24:51 PM
Scott, I've got a brilliant idea. As we all know Scott's 10 year anthology set PvPawesomology is now available for pre order (and I can't wait to get my hands on a copy). Scott should draw one DING strip for every 100 books that are sold. That was the people in this forum could support Scott. If we can convince 100,000 people to buy the basic set that would give Scott $850,000. So spread the word and convince friends, family members and forum members to support Scott. By supporting Scott you support DING. And, Scott, my dad also cried during the Star Trek movie, too. It was very moving.
5/24/2009 5:11:39 PM
@Xenoth: Maybe that's what Archie wants?
5/24/2009 3:13:18 PM
In response to architect:Contradict yourself much? "Oh, trolls are good because they provide feedback!" "Oh trolls are stupid tards who do the self nastification in their parents house" In my humble opinion you have proven yourself to be worse than either flamer or troll. You write such a massive amount of nonsense that people could very well stop reading the comments section because they don't want to deal with your rants and pitiful insults about nothing. And that is something that no flamer or troll could do. Congratulations architect. You have set a new low as the worst kind of poster.(At least flamers and trolls are fun to laugh at)
5/24/2009 8:28:08 AM
Exciting news to be announced this week from King Kurtz on the future of Ding. Buckle your seatbelts, kids, because the shuttle is about to leave the station.
5/24/2009 7:30:16 AM
@architect: At my worst I couldn't type a 100th of what you did...and yet I could never in my life say so little.
5/24/2009 6:41:53 AM
@architect: and: extreme yes, but you get the idea. mr. kurtz has really never asked for anything and yet he still provides comics like pvponline and yes, the limited ding! series (for now) to us. he entertains, he picks his mind for story lines, he comes up with background, media, content and image, all for our enjoyment and some of us somehow find a reason to tear him down. i'd like to see your art floating out around there making a living for your familyand bringing entertainment to so many. those trolls out there remind me of those people that populate the offices of e!entertainment and all the other various tabloids. you don't shock, you don't entertain because you're talking about someone else's life, you're just sad and pathetic and to be honest...you're the laughing stock you tard because you have nothing else better to do aside from griping and jacking off in your grandparents basement to covergirl. have fun while the rest of us enjoy life.
5/24/2009 6:25:51 AM
@architect: *their, my apologies for the spell errors, it happens at 3:23 in the morning. keep the fun in mind scott, nothing is worth a damn if you can't have fun at it. remember, 100 people can say you're shit, but it only takes that last person of the day to make you smile and everything that you've done all worth it.
5/24/2009 6:12:30 AM
@architect: surprisingly people find so much fault with others because of one thing or another. mr. kurtz is an artist, he enjoys his work and he not only that, he makes it for other people, how many of you can say the same? i used to work for medicare (which incidently won't be around when most of you hit that age....trust me...and don't even ask about social security), but working there, you had at least 30 calls a day where you had to field calls from someone else's parent or grandparent that only wanted to be there for someone and couldn't be, that was there life. i had to talk down people from suicide because of that, and all they wanted to do was talk, and share. give a brother a break and grow the fuck up flamers.
5/24/2009 6:03:23 AM
@Newb: its funny, whether newb is mr. kurtz or not. i enjoy the comments and the comic. people who flame and people who provide a modicum of grace and encouragement are the same. they provide ideas and creative art is all about interfacing with the public and providing a conduit that we can relate with or at the very least find humor in which makes our days that much better.
5/22/2009 4:18:30 PM
wtf it double posted on its own. o.Othe site has drugs too? D=
5/22/2009 4:17:44 PM
@66rekrul: obviously some damn good drugs.share plox? =D
5/22/2009 4:17:43 PM
5/22/2009 10:00:28 AM
Newb - if Scott is really extending an olive branch, why is he doing it through you? Or twitter? Why not speak to his readers directly in a way that they're all sure to read, instead of relying on Twitter? Getting this info secondhand from someone schilling for Kurtz is pretty lame and half-assed.Kurtz - man up, already. If you're so worried about alienated Ding fans, you'd be posting in here or on your website. Give some hint of what you're up to.
5/22/2009 3:28:53 AM
@Newb: wow...I dunno what drugs Scott fed you but...wow
5/22/2009 2:58:38 AM
Big ding news...does that mean well get it in heavily delayed parts and that he will stop giving it to us halfway through?
5/22/2009 1:41:00 AM
@Newb: Why would I follow anyone's twitter account? I'm not a twit! :P
5/21/2009 11:44:16 PM
If he updated once a year i wouldn't care. This comic still makes me LOL
5/21/2009 10:01:08 PM
From Scott's Twitter account "@thestubca Desperately trying to keep it going, renew creative interest, make amends with alienated Ding readers and best promote my brand." He's extending an olive branch. Not all of us readers are alienated, Scott. You have several fans here that have supported you through all of this. We understand life can lay waste to the best laid plans. Scott's returning!
5/21/2009 7:01:11 PM
Sorry for the double post. Computer went buggy on me.
5/21/2009 4:13:44 PM
Just spending the day enjoying the heck out of PVP and reading Scott's twitter account and came across THIS: "Hang in there, Ding! fans. Big Ding news coming next week." about 5 hours ago from TweetDeck For those of you who are fans this is very exciting news. For those of you who aren't why the heck are you here?
5/21/2009 3:51:23 PM
5/21/2009 1:02:45 PM
@Grifter: you really like feeding trolls don't you?
5/21/2009 11:52:03 AM
Hey guys keep in mind that this is a subsidiary comic for him, whether he updates it regularly or not is really up to him. I'll keep coming back here and checking but I'm not about to start complaining. Just read PvP and check here on occasion.
5/20/2009 5:15:58 PM
@Xenoth: Given what I've seen on his work ethic, this is true.
5/20/2009 9:19:44 AM
That would either mean waiting another zillion months while he makes the stockpile, or doubling the workload and making him give up entirely. Though as a reader of both comics, i would much prefer 3 updates a week on pvp and at least 1 a week here
5/20/2009 7:48:09 AM
Here's a novel idea for "Teh Kurtz". Update PVP Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, and Friday and give us Ding! readers our Wednesday update until things calm down enough for the schedule to return to normal...Or, as I've suggested before, maybe make a nice big fraking buffer of comics (say, three weeks ahead) so that when things get busy you have a big smegging pile of material to keep the fans happy...
5/20/2009 12:37:22 AM
@Lurker66: Meh, would be nice if he just admitted it, but then the trolls wouldn't be able to assert that Scott cares nothing about this comic and won't even post on it.
5/19/2009 9:52:03 PM
@Newb: It's nice that Scott decided to let us know what's going on. But why use the handle "Newb"? Does Scott feel like he needs a secret identity? Especially when it's painfully obvious who Newb really is?...
5/19/2009 8:43:05 PM
Hey, guys, sounds like a lot of you are missing ole king Kurtz. Well, Ding has been delayed while he's been working on PvP Awesomology. For those of you that are in serious need of your Kurtz fix the PvP anthology series showcases all 10 years of PvP and is on sale now at pvpstuff.com. Enjoy and keep on supporting Kurtz. He really appreciates it. And for those of you who are upset at the lack of updates it's been a busy few weeks for teh Kurtz. Ding's not dead.
5/19/2009 1:32:46 PM
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5/18/2009 12:48:09 PM
@architect: sry about that second post, my page went gunney for a moment.
5/18/2009 12:46:18 PM
well whether or not someone already said it, i love the correlation between francis ottoman's character (and by extension, his character's character) from pvp to this. so this is a great spin-off even if it is short and would love to see more as an aside. its pretty awesome that you decided to make this comic mr. kurtz, i hope it continues regardless of some of the lesser intelligent banter.
5/18/2009 12:46:09 PM
5/18/2009 10:41:51 AM
@Xenoth: Are you trying to kill all of us?
5/17/2009 4:42:42 PM
LOL New trolls!!! more friends to disturb the peace
5/17/2009 2:13:49 PM
I think its gotten pretty clear this comic is no longer being updated. Maybe its time to take it down or move it to an archive file.
5/17/2009 2:05:31 AM
"Wenn ist daB Nunnstück Git und SlottemeierJa!!! BeierhundDas oder die Flippenwald gesput!!!"(Look up Monty Python deadly joke)
5/16/2009 5:13:19 PM
@pinchythecrab: the explorer title comic was great, I love donald.VG cats is kind of a joke, you're right..but at least that guy has given up all pretense of updating regularly and has, you got it...set the expectation. Just look at the title bar of the website (it usually changes every couple weeks) and his posts: he knows he can't update like he wants to, so he does when he can and posts to his blog with somewhat interesting things to read. It's not a new comic every week, but it's something and the readers aren't left hanging for 2 months waiting on an update.
5/16/2009 5:27:59 AM
@Arras: I forgot about that one, a damn fine comic.Kurtz should look up a buff for not failing at comic updating. He makes that weeaboo who makes VG Cats look good.
5/15/2009 6:15:08 PM
@pinchythecrab: Another person who loves reading LFG, huh? nice :)
5/15/2009 2:23:07 AM
@tkech: Unfortunately the speech in question more accurately references a BODY of work, not a serialized form of entertainment. IT would certainly be more relevant if the topic had been about someone who writes one paragraph each time they update in a continuing story arc, so it's not as appropriate when looking at a webcomic such as this one.
5/15/2009 1:06:25 AM
Well. Had to come back for one more thing (and you should have seen me digging for the address till I checked pvp, lol.) Looking for Group webcomic author Ryan Sohmer posted this link to Neil Gaman's recent blog about entitlement. Skip the blog and go down to the reader letter and Neil's response. http://journal.neilgaiman.com/2009/05/entitlement-issues.html
5/15/2009 12:40:11 AM
Okay, I'm finally resigned to it. Have removed Ding! from my bookmarks. Hopefully Scott will post on PVP when he gets back around to Ding!Thanks for all the entertainment tho, folks, lol.
5/14/2009 2:20:36 PM
Now the secret is with the Jell-O puddin pops is you can put em in your mouth. Take lil Jonny there he can put a delicious puddin pop in his mouth that he gets from the nice man with the van and the puppy....
5/14/2009 3:58:09 AM
@Eon_The_Wolf: Actually it shares more then just a passing resemblance to WoW. Aside from the races, the DISPOSITION of the races was (probably intentionally) taken from WoW. In the beginning the main character is upset because his elven race with fair skin is portrayed as allied with traditionally evil races such as the trolls, tauren and undead. The rest of the story branches from there, but it has very strong WoW roots.Anyways, most of the people who do care about Scott are worn down by so much trolling that they aren't even commenting anymore, so good luck getting flames. The well has run dry.
5/14/2009 1:51:20 AM
@Eon_The_Wolf: the only *true* WoW-themed webcomic that I read with any regularity is Dark Legacy comics. Keydar does some damn funny stuff and it ages very well, I've gone back to some of his original strips and I still laugh out loud (no, seriously...out loud)You can see that his style has improved over time and he doesn't take himself too seriously, he updates when he can and when he can't, he...wait for it..sets the expectations of his fans and readers by informing them of what's going on. Novel approach. Kuntz could learn something
5/13/2009 10:55:40 PM
@pinchythecrab: Whooops. Anyway, as I was trying to type, LFG isn't a WoW comic. It's just a fantasy comic that takes inspiration from, and makes fun of, general fantasy stories like WoW, LoTR, and other such IP's.
5/13/2009 10:54:31 PM
@pinchythecrab:
5/13/2009 4:49:49 PM
@Xenoth: I guess people are realizing that Kurtz is a putz and has given up on this comic long ago. All the sympathy people had for him when his dog passed away has pretty much evaporated when people realized he was taking a month break from a comic he had already taken a month break formHe's a hack, a schmuck and a douchebag all rolled into on corpulent gaseous cunt.That should be good for at least 20 more flames. You're welcome
5/13/2009 3:51:37 PM
Looks like everything is starting to die down. Everything has been said. We really do need a new comic. With the comments drying up, there will soon be nothing to read here
5/13/2009 3:01:27 AM
@I_pwn_mongbats: good :) oh, and on a personal note:Trollish correction of trollish comment: Check
5/12/2009 2:41:51 PM
This comic gets funnier everytime I read it.
5/12/2009 11:55:56 AM
Inflammatory trollish comment made by mongbats... check!
5/12/2009 7:32:14 AM
Well, in a sad note, 3D Realms managed to finally go under without the publication of "Duke Nukem Forever" a game in development for over 12 years. So the next time anyone wants to mention delays, just consider how long people will REALLY wait for something they like.
5/12/2009 5:37:57 AM
@Imadethis2comment: **hugs** Everyone gets troll told, no fail in that
5/12/2009 1:55:02 AM
@66rekrul: I have been troll told.FAIL
5/10/2009 3:10:13 AM
@I_pwn_mongbats: you forgot the last check...Inflammatory trollish comment made by mongbats. **headshake** REALLY must be more thorough.
5/10/2009 3:08:53 AM
@Imadethis2comment: no, because real trolls are BANNED from using the profile screen (because it prevents trolling :P )
5/10/2009 12:59:04 AM
Dead dog... check Absent author... check (still) New comic up... hah! What was I thinking! *walks off shaking is head* Yeah, I'll check back in a week or two.
5/9/2009 10:10:31 PM
@Darthbilly: Obsessive Compulsive Disorder? Kidding! Although compulsive behaviour is quite normal because it makes us feel safer, generally speaking, hence why it's used as a coping mechanism for obsessions.
5/9/2009 4:46:48 PM
Why do I bother checking this ever few days? /sigh.
5/9/2009 1:58:55 PM
Yeah i think that it is almost time for a new comic. The natives are getting restless
5/9/2009 1:50:09 PM
@66rekrul: Real trolls have profile pictures.:P
5/9/2009 3:06:53 AM
@pinchythecrab: And the comic has bad coloring!! (that makes two more :) )
5/8/2009 7:30:54 PM
When he doesn't make more Ding! comics to make more PvP strips, it's not like he's making anything good.Want a WoW themed comic that actually bothers to update? Read Looking For Group. At least when he isn't updating his side comic in favor of his main one, the comics he makes are worth reading.
5/8/2009 4:15:04 PM
@Imadethis2comment: Failcraft is NOT my master or in any way associated with me. I actually take offense that you would lump me in with them. I came of my own accord, the only one I followed was my mirror.
5/8/2009 2:24:04 PM
20008? Have we colonized the sun yet?
5/8/2009 1:00:24 PM
Failcraft brought a clan of trolls with him.
5/8/2009 7:44:00 AM
@Dougprime: Buzzards cannot be all places at all times :P Took them a while to find the body.
5/8/2009 6:24:59 AM
Okay, took a spin through Ding's of days past and found a couple of interesting facts. This isn't Scott's longest stretch (he had one that lasted almost four months at the beginning of 2008). Secondly, where did all of the blogging suddenly come from. On previous strips, there were only a few posts, even on the ones that were like seperated by a couple of weeks. Suddenly, 12/10/20008 and everybody and their mom suddenly started posting, first a mix of commentary but eventually the complaints about Scott's failure to post on a regular basis. The gaps tend to get longer from there.
5/7/2009 11:30:01 PM
@Dougprime: oh, ahem, I wondered where the foam came from.
5/7/2009 9:35:53 PM
@66rekrul: Rabid gerbils.....not wild....rabid. It's more stingy that way. I don't think a pack of merely "wild" gerbils would see us as part of the food chain.
5/7/2009 6:56:49 PM
By now the "One more Day" counter has to be at Another month. Someone tally up all the negative posts. I don't have that much free time.
5/7/2009 2:18:22 PM
@Dougprime: We would NEVER turn on each other like a pack of wild gerbils *urp* Oh, whose foot was this?@Imadethis2comment:Who takes this long to update, really!! (one more day! :) )
5/7/2009 2:12:47 PM
@Imadethis2comment: I hate Scott's lack of a new comic!Woot! One more day! ^_^
5/7/2009 10:59:29 AM
@Dougprime: Every time someone makes a negative post. He holds the update by one day.
5/7/2009 9:31:45 AM
You know, I had a horrible thought just now. We're at, what, two hundred fifty plus posts, with no new update? Could this be some devious experiment to see how many posts we will put before we all just give up? I mean, for me wouldn't be so bad, I like pvp and Scott updates that one regularly. Maybe this is some bizzaro test to see how long will hold out. I don't mind the company, but I have been having visions of posters eventually turning on each other like rabid gerbils, with the whole thing degenerating into a flame war that would make world_of_failcraft's useless tirades seem like kindergarden. Is it just paranoia....?
5/6/2009 6:42:37 PM
@Dieselpowered: ditto bro
5/6/2009 1:58:08 PM
@geeeee: so start a conversation if you want more comments.
5/6/2009 7:49:57 AM
not enough comments up in this bitch. Read PvP
5/5/2009 3:31:06 PM
@TouringBubble: well, so far he hasn't broken his pattern though.I just assume the updates are every two months :)
5/5/2009 1:47:14 PM
you have a point ...
5/5/2009 12:06:10 PM
@TouringBubble: Which is good. Once he updates everyone will have to start all over! :(
5/5/2009 11:08:38 AM
Sorry to be on topic here, but 7 COLORED PvP comics since Scott's return, and still no Ding!.
5/5/2009 4:00:03 AM
@pinchythecrab: mature should be spelled p-s-y-c-h-o-t-i-c, simple mistake really. And since you are one of the aforementioned, thank you very much for derailing yourself. REALLY wish I could say I planned for that :P Congrats though!!
5/5/2009 3:32:56 AM
@66rekrul: Oh yes, because if you act mature towards "trolls" you'll be the hero of this site, and perhaps the whole internet.You seriously overestimate how many shits people give about comments like ours.
5/5/2009 3:25:55 AM
oh well, I can derail thoughts from one troll, but three is above my limit. I tried.
5/5/2009 2:18:49 AM
at this point i just come to this site to see the new comments lol
5/4/2009 9:17:43 PM
Heh. It's been more than a month. Cough.
5/4/2009 7:53:44 PM
It must be super hard to make a ton of comics when you draw the main character in the exact same position in 3/4 of the panels, excluding the one where you've drawn him in the same position but from another angle. Maybe this one was a guest comic by Jim Davis.I realize you owe us nothing and not everyone can be Penny Arcade, who updates regularly and skillfully, but godamn. If youre going to update so rarely at least make a real gem of a comic so people will keep checking your site for the next one.
5/4/2009 4:14:17 PM
@Xenoth: Aww, seems to have been a bad day for a lot of people :[And it's kinda like the most quiet kid in class finally shouting "SHUT UP!". When it's least expected, people quiet down ^^On another note, hope your days have been better. Bad days should never carry over D:
5/4/2009 2:01:19 PM
@Dougprime: :) I was being a snot, don't worry about it.
5/4/2009 2:00:15 PM
Yeah, i guess i really did have a bad day looking back on it :P Thank you to all wellwishers and it must have been a pretty bad day to make ME swear (kind of) lol but seeing me snap seems to have made everyone else a lot calmer for some reason *shrug*
5/4/2009 11:03:02 AM
Sorry, crap internet connection logged me out twice in mid comment. @XenothMy goodness. Must have been a truly bad day. @66rekrulI'd never say anything bad about anyone I've never met face to face. I'll pummel their ideas from here to christmas, but never them personally.
5/4/2009 10:58:37 AM
5/4/2009 4:54:30 AM
@Dougprime: You be nice to Xenoth! Take those nasty thing you said back :P
5/4/2009 2:49:46 AM
@Xenoth:
5/4/2009 1:43:53 AM
@Xenoth: **hugs the Xenoth** Sorry to hear about your day :( Mine has been fine, My SO had a birthday celebration last night (weekends are better days to celebrate birthdays) and we had plenty of alcoholic celebration :)
5/4/2009 1:38:58 AM
Ok, now everyone just wants to attack each other. I am game as i have had a fairly bad day.Ahem...YOU CAN ALL GO TO HELL!
5/3/2009 3:32:03 PM
@Chaosinfused: Oh so high and mighty we are! In all my years of intensive psychiatric evaluation I have never seen someone so inappropriate and vulgar!! You should be ashamed at the way your id has squashed your ego and run rampant with your Freudian desires! I am APPALLED!
5/2/2009 7:03:03 PM
Still giving them what they want. If everyone just ignored them they would eventually go away.
5/2/2009 5:20:49 PM
@I_pwn_mongbats: Do you REALLY not care about his life at all? Or are you really just that much of an asshole to care SO DEEPLY about comic updates? plenty of others out there...
5/2/2009 5:02:13 AM
@I_pwn_mongbats: Hmm? Oh, yes, right over there Mongbats.
5/2/2009 4:45:24 AM
Anyone know of the artist got over his dead dog yet? I mean, it's time we got some comic again, isn't it?
5/1/2009 7:04:15 PM
edit: Wow. That 'you' should be 'young'.
5/1/2009 7:03:25 PM
@Xenoth: The next step was probably gonna be pictures. 8-bit pictures. To naturally censor/blur the gory parts for you readers.
5/1/2009 3:17:21 PM
:P Graphic as in people were going into great detail about the demise of each other. But you knew that
4/30/2009 10:54:10 PM
@66rekrul: maybe they used snapshots of the resident evil games. :OWatch out for them raspberries!!
4/30/2009 1:25:26 PM
@Xenoth: I think I missed the graphics. Were they photorealistic? :P
4/30/2009 12:46:42 PM
lol see? This is what i do. I keep everyone so entertained that they forget to complain or even what they are complaining about. I remember when i first came here, this was nothing but a group of people (graphically)threatening to kill each other for complaining about updates. Now everyone seems much more calm and content. Viva la Xenoth! And now for something completely different:http://tinyurl.com/22rf6e
4/30/2009 10:46:12 AM
@Lurker66: No wai, a comic?! for realz??! deeewwwwd!/random lolcat :]omg i got an awsome lolcat shirt! it's a kitty with a lightsaber! xD
4/30/2009 3:08:18 AM
@Imadethis2comment: Wait... Is there a comic here? I thought this was a just a place to comment on random stuff out of boredom...Now I'm curious. Is the comic any good?
4/30/2009 1:41:58 AM
@Xenoth: 1 month Comic Birthday!And you thought i'd forget this special date!You know how much I love to surprise you!
4/29/2009 10:12:49 PM
@Warcrack4kids: Meep? I think your mouse is different from mine, I was thinking the scroll buttons where you push it in and it scrolls in whichever direction the mouse is pushed, sometimes faster then the scroll wheel lets you do. sounds like yours is a different problem.
4/29/2009 10:02:30 PM
edit: so pushing it in does too, but the movements are different o.o;
4/29/2009 10:01:29 PM
@66rekrul: you mean pushing that scroll thing from side to side, or pushing it in and moving the actual mouse? 'Cause pushing it from side to side lets you scroll up and down, and left to right if the page is wide enough :]
4/29/2009 7:46:10 PM
@Warcrack4kids: LOL, It still works though!! I just keep forgetting how to do it.
4/29/2009 2:46:56 PM
@Xenoth: I've always enjoyed Monty Python :D Few times if any that they DON'T improve ones outlook ^^
4/29/2009 1:14:59 PM
I am glad you approve! I encourage everyone to try the link i posted in my last post. It should improve your outlook on life
4/29/2009 8:32:18 AM
@Lurker66: Sad to say, using autoCAD had GIVEN me a handicap with a mouse xD every time I go to navigate teh internetz with a mouse after working in it, I try pressing the scroll button IN and moving the mouse to scroll pages lolThen I realize how silly I'm being :DXenoth that was awsome ^^
4/28/2009 2:13:08 PM
@Betty_TheTroll: They are my evil twin. Or am I the evil one.... It's so hard to keep track sometimes. The goatee helps. ;)
4/28/2009 2:08:27 PM
@Becket_TheBest: LOL, now I'm scared! And we do happen to know each other, was waiting for SOMEONE to notice!!
4/28/2009 1:00:19 PM
@66rekrul: R U GIRL?Dude send me your pix plz?And has no one else called out lurker66 and 66kerul on being related or the same person yet?Their names are the same things backwards...And they constantly post within minutes of each other....like at 3:40 AM which is just a tad psycho imo...But i hope their just twins.Then iz gets to see 2 pix.@Xenoth: Good to know you aren't completely coo coo for cocoa puffs then.
4/28/2009 12:57:52 PM
People tend to spout obscenities when they have nothing intelligent to say. So in my opinion, swearing in your post rather invalidates your entire point. And now for something completely different:http://tinyurl.com/5d9ufq
4/28/2009 6:20:53 AM
@Chaosinfused: Mmm, may want to reread your post. You did say it is easier to be an asshole online WHERE NOONE CAN SEE YOU, so I simply offered to let you see me. Then when you see me in person you can shout obscenities at me if you want.
4/28/2009 5:52:03 AM
@66rekrul: Actually, if you read again, all I said was it's easy to be an asshole online, yet if it did come to a face-to-face confrontation... might be a little harder...
4/28/2009 3:53:51 AM
@Warcrack4kids: I find track pads annoying to use. At least I was able to overcome my mouse handicap. Shhh, don't tell the men. It's best for them to think that the internet is still all male. It reduces the confusion and sex thoughts. :3
4/28/2009 3:43:12 AM
@Blackthorne: LOL! Venomous? The doctors told me they removed those fangs!!
4/28/2009 3:06:36 AM
I must admit, I'm getting to the point where I check here each day for the comments. 66rekrul's comments are great reading.Oh yeah and if the internet only contains males, I meet a lot of feminine and very strangely shaped males on here then :P Although personally, I'm not complaining!Seriously, on Scott's dog, I am going to offer my sympathies and understanding for his loss, it may be my therapist training kicking in here (yes, there's a certain irony in admitting that relating to the comic above) but each person is allowed to grieve over what they wish and at the depth of what they wish. It is not up to us to render judgement on Scott's feelings at this point in time (or, in my personal opinion, any time).On the flip side, this comic is rarely updated before and after the event but I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. Yes, I'd like more regularly scheduled and funnier Dings as soon as possible but let's face it, Scott at the moment has precious little to laugh about.However, keep the comments coming. Someone poke 66rekrul again. Sarcastic venomous wordage is the breakfast of champions!
4/27/2009 10:09:27 PM
we can't use mouses, but at least track pads were created!! :D
4/27/2009 5:33:05 PM
I'm not usually a commenter but I had to sign up to say that I'm very sorry for the loss or your dog Scott. Two weeks earlier our family's beagle/basset hound had to be put down at the age of 13, he had a long life and he will be missed greatly. I too wasn't there when my family had to put him down and I still feel guilty for not being able to say good bye, but at the same time glad I didn't need to hold him when he went. I don't really read PVP, I don't have time to read all the archives, but Ding! is very good. As for the updates, life as an excuse is perfectly understandable. I also read Anders <3 Maria and her updates are also sporadic so I just come back once a month and see if there was an update. If there's been more than one all the better I'll get a few in a row and if there hasn't been a new one I fully understand that life comes first. Keep up the good work, while I wish there were more updates I understand if there aren't.-Liz-
4/27/2009 5:13:22 PM
@Lurker66: It's cause I get so catty!! :P Oh yes, and@BettyChaos accused me of being too afraid to show my face, so if anything they are the pervert for indirectly requesting to see me. And no, it's just a personal thing. Trolls always used to annoy me, so I figured the best thing to do is figure out what makes them tick so I could save myself the aggravation of impotent rage when they troll me. Knowing how trolls work makes it easier to ignore them. AND for the record, you were the one who dragged the philosophy out as long as you possibly could by arguing definitions, so which of us is using the post as a sad pathetic attempt to exercise pseudophilosophy? (paraphrase) Oh yes, and I am scatterbrained, I do apologize for that. I tend to read, react, read some more, react some more, repeat as necessary. A little character flaw that is in my opinion preferable to people who are unable to even argue without resorting to namecalling.
4/27/2009 5:05:45 PM
@66rekrul: Oh come on! Of course everyone on the internet is male! That's cause girls can't use a mouse. :P
4/27/2009 5:02:08 PM
@Becket_TheBest: I KNOW!! People are so stupid on this board, EVEN assuming that everyone who posts is male!! I agree with Betty, why argue when you can call people pathetic and NEVER address the legitimate holes they poke in your arguments? Let's just have a slamfest instead!!
4/27/2009 2:57:01 PM
I was not actually supporting either person. I just stated my preference between the two evils. I just personally can't stand people you spout a stream of profanity while trying to say something.
4/27/2009 1:15:42 PM
@Xenoth: Wait really? Really?! I actually thought you were one of the smarter ones on this comment board. And yet you side with 66k over this?!Chaos made a good point. 66 uses this board as a pathetic and juvenile attempt at being philosophical, running around self affirming himself all over the place. Furthermore, since he lacks the cognitive process necessary to outline all of his thoughts in one post he ends up spamming replies that no one cares about.Plus he's a pervert. He wants to send Chaos his pix. Yuck.@66rekrul: And that little thing about becoming thy enemy? Omg rofl @ you. Seriously? The trolls are your enemy? You in some kind of secret organization dedicated to eliminating them or something? Roflcopters at you trying to make some holy crusade out of you're time on the internet.Omg haha you are such a joke.
4/26/2009 2:19:43 PM
@Xenoth: LOL, yes dear :) My apologies but had to set the record straight. Troll code and all that.
4/26/2009 11:09:30 AM
Meh. How...mildly irritating. Though i still much prefer this excessive mindless banter from 66rekrul than the pitiful swearfest from Chaosinfused. Just please try to reign it in a bit 66rekrul ok?
4/26/2009 1:38:28 AM
@Chaosinfused: Oh why not, I'm on a roll. I am a troll, I know that quite well and have never actually denied it. It's along the lines of know thine enemy/become thine enemy. Gives me insight into what NOT to do to trolls if you want them to stop. You should try it, then your precious peace may actually last a bit when you figure out what does and does not work.
4/26/2009 1:32:53 AM
@Chaosinfused: Final thought. I would LOVe to post me real pic for you, I am not shy. Unfortuantely I am not able to access the forum account page but I will do you the favour of personally seniding my pic if you want, just give me an email addy :P
4/25/2009 7:08:31 PM
@Chaosinfused: Oh, and if I am not vocal or argumentative, then...I really would NOT be a troll now would I smarty pants!! :)
4/25/2009 7:07:12 PM
@Chaosinfused: LOL, count the days between posts and look in the mirror for trolling I was content for more then a week and now you are intentionaly flaming me to see what I'll say back :P VERY good job, BTW.
4/25/2009 6:37:43 PM
Sigh...
4/25/2009 4:44:30 PM
@66rekrul: It's obvious you are a troll, since you won't shut the f*ck up! Also, don't consider yourself as "vocal, smart, and a little more argumentative then I used to be" JUST because you respond to people in ways that make no sense, and make it seem as if they DO. It's easy to be an asshole online, when nobody sees you. Just shut up and let people enjoy the comic in peace.