Press Pass: Dan "Shoe" Hsu Takes on the Bitmob

The former Ziff Davis exec. talks about the fate of his former company and the recent launch of his new community-driven gaming site, Bitmob
7/2/2009 1:20 PM | 5 Comments | Page 1 of 4

Kyle Orland
Kyle Orland
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What do you do when you've spent nearly a third of your life writing about games for a single company, only to see that company decline and be sold off as a faint echo of what it once was? If you're Dan "Shoe" Hsu, the answer is simple -- take a short break, then finally go into business for yourself.

An 11-year veteran of Ziff Davis Media, Hsu rose to be editor-in-chief of the magazine Electronic Gaming Monthly and editorial director for 1UP.com before leaving in April of 2008, just months before the magazine was shuttered and 1UP was sold to UGO. Since then he's dabbled in freelancing for G4, launched a gaming video series with his girlfriend, and started a personal blog called Sore Thumbs with former EGMer Crispin Boyer. Then, just before E3, Hsu revealed his long-planned mystery project, Bitmob, a game site that relies on a mix of professional content from Hsu and some fellow Ziff Davis alums and community content written by Bitmob readers.

I talked to Hsu about his thoughts on the post-departure Ziff Davis, his vision for Bitmob and the future of the game journalism in general. Here are the most interesting excerpts from our lengthy interview:

On the financial situation at Ziff Davis before his departure

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This picture of Hsu is required to run with every one of his interviews. It's in the Internet bylaws.
"I'm not the CFO or CEO so I don't know every intricate or intimate detail, but there were debt problems that they had to manage. All those properties made money -- 1UP made money, EGM made money -- but the thing is, all of our income, all of our revenue was going towards paying interest on these massive debts. A couple of times they had to restructure those debts to make the interest payments more reasonable but it never got to a situation where it was like, "Hey, check it out now, we're profitable and we can start building the business."

"I think that's why things looked so bleak for a while there. At the same time as that happened, the magazine business as a whole started suffering. Even the big magazines, the Maxims and such, started suffering, losing subscribers and all that. Combine that with that massive amount of debt, it's just stirring trouble all the way around. 1UP did do really well, it was really well received, really well liked, but I think the economy wasn't helping, either. So many things working against us...

On the mood at Ziff Davis before his departure

"Here we are, Ziff Davis Media, as a company that was not in a position to grow the business or barely even maintain the business because of debt problems all the time. I'm not a financial guy, I'm not one of the CEOs so I don't know all that happened there, but when you don't have a budget to do anything to help promote the magazine, to help circulate the magazine, you don't have very much money to build everything you want to build with the Web site, so you're competing with these companies when you don't have the resources to do so, you're letting people go instead of hiring people, it's just sort of a bad situation.

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  • Je-Tze
    Je-Tze

    7/7/2009 6:58:54 AM

    @JHay:

    Yeah, i think i might have come of as a bit of an ass too, after rereading my post just now... oh well, thanks for keeping it civil. =)

    For what it's worth: my reading-between-the-lines- on Hsu's statements leads me to believe that he feels hopeful about the resurection of EGM too. And my interpretation is that he's not condescending or offended by people being excited about it, but he just takes hype with a large grain of salt until he has more, and more solid, evidence. He doesn't really indicate wether Steve Harris gives him any particular hope, nor the opposite. This could be an indicator of little faith in Harris, or just an indicator that Hsu knows a lot more goes into a good mag than just a competant/faithful managing editor...
    duno...
    it's all to much speculation for me. I certainly hope the best for EGM, but i'll wait til the first issue is out to see whether it's worth more than a fishwrap. ;)

    LOL btw. As of 3:30am pacific time 7/7/09 your "*JZ" comment, where you corrected the misspelling of my name, is at the bottom of the "ChatterBox" recent comments crawl on the right side of the page. I guess that thing doesn't parse at all. Heh.

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  • JHay
    JHay

    7/6/2009 11:30:29 PM

    *JZ

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  • JHay
    JHay

    7/6/2009 11:30:07 PM

    TZ -

    I hear what you're saying about the brand, and would feel similarly if it were some outsider looking to abuse the EGM legacy - but it's the original Steve Harris here. His and Ed Semrad's days were among the finest in EGM's history in my personal opinion.

    So I stand by the EGM resurrection as one of the hopeful. It just appeared that Hsu was being a little condescending toward those of us out there who maintain faith in the publication. Nothing more, nothing less.

    No offense taken - I appreciate the comment, I only hope I didn't come off too much like an arrogant ass

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  • Je-Tze
    Je-Tze

    7/4/2009 11:48:29 PM

    @JHay:

    wtf?! Where do you sense resentment from? He makes it clear that he's interested to see how the new EGM turns out, but is not about to be excited about it just because someone plans to use the brand. That's a level, unbiassed, logical approach. Frankly, if you're not approaching pretty much EVERYTHING with that sort of healthy skepticism, in our cynical, ultra-commercialized world, then you're playing the fool.

    As for the rest of your comment, i can't really say...
    I don't exactly follow Hsu's work, and i haven't read Bitmob. He may be as biassed and unprofessional as you say, but i'm disinclined to take you seriously as an objective, unbiased source. I think you may have tipped your own hand, with the extreme liberties you took in interpreting his comments in the interview.

    ...just the way it looks anyway. No offense or nastiness intended. -jz

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  • JHay
    JHay

    7/2/2009 4:45:44 PM

    I got the sense of a bit of resentment from Hsu in regards to the new EGM --

    Seeing a print publication succeed reflects well on the industry at large; no need to belittle people's faith in the brand. And thanks to the EGM name, the magazine has a head start in the game - critical for any magazine looking to gain traction in the hard knocks of this print climate.

    As for content, if Hsu's opinion of a quality pub is anything like his editorial content for Bitmob, I'm glad he hasn't been tapped to write for the new EGM. What this crop of web writers doesn't seem to get, and what the old pubs used to (as enthusiast as they were) is that blog-style opinionated journalism does not make for quality content. Hsu and Bitmob dipped their hand too much during the E3 press conferences for me to be able to take them seriously as an objective, unbiased source.

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